Mikael.K said:So, for gaming purposes every model is a champion, just like grail knights? They really could have been a bit clearer on that part.
Not exactly.RnF BK cannot themselves issue challenges.
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Not exactly.RnF BK cannot themselves issue challenges.
.I'm going to try 5 Blood Knights with the banner of strigos. Against the Empire, I believe it'll work just perfectly.
If I was going to use them it would also probably be 5 without a kastellan. I would have mus, Stand with Banner of Strigos and if I was really concentrating on them a BSB with the Drakenhof Banner and Lord with Bloodrinker, Walach's Bloody Hauberk, Dread Knight, Red Fury and maybe begule for challenges. not much would stand upto a charge from that unit.
Weird, I was thinking just about the same settings as you. It's gonna cost like hell, but well, what the heck! Hope the unit can reach close combat before all the knights are down.
Hopefully with 2+ and regen they would, however the beauty of the bloodrinker is as long as one Knight survives to combat then any wound caused by the Lord will bring back a Knight, with Red fury there's a good chance you could bring back the unit to full strength just from the charge.
In a 2000 point game I fielded 6 blood knights with the royal banner of strigos with a vampire BSB with the Banner of Drakenhof (Regen) and a vampire dreadknight with red fury and blood drinker. These guys creamed anything my opponent could throw at them, they took on a 20 strong unit of choas warriors with the mark of khorne and killed 18! the two that remained were pursued and I overan into 6 chosen knights which got wiped out as well. This is when my opponent threw a tantrum about how overpowered blood knights are!!!
He then refused to continue the game unless i took the knights out. ;D
so in the end it was a massacre to the Vampire Counts.
Trust me guys, Blood knights are expensive, but man do they pack a punch, i recommend them 100%!!
He then refused to continue the game unless i took the knights out. ;D
so in the end it was a massacre to the Vampire Counts.
Trust me guys, Blood knights are expensive, but man do they pack a punch, i recommend them 100%!!
Haha. If he cannot flank charge said unit, then his army may not be as well constructed as he thought. You could have that same unit be baited and fled against WE. They might get stuck in a forest for awhile and be lead around by the nose.
You cannot fight that unit face to face, this is true. But if were to manage to flank charge with a lot of static CR, he could potentially break and kill said unit. Flank, outnumber, 3 ranks on the flank, standard against standard, BSB.
Anyways, I do not think they are overpowered by any stretch of the imagination.
You cannot fight that unit face to face, this is true. But if were to manage to flank charge with a lot of static CR, he could potentially break and kill said unit. Flank, outnumber, 3 ranks on the flank, standard against standard, BSB.
Anyways, I do not think they are overpowered by any stretch of the imagination.
no they are not overpowered and someone who uses knorne chosen knights saying that is ridiculous. There are plenty ways to take out the Knights via concentrated shooting, magic, destroying thier screens and drawing them on with frenzy, as well as the point that they cost an horrendous amount of points, especially the setup you mentioned. Sounds like a poor loser to me.
what they say is true BK isnt that OP. Ive fought VC vs VC he was fielding my BK and he ram them into my Skellies on my flank thinking he can soul train his way thru my center. After the initial charge which almost wipe the unit. Those BK got stuck there forever. I never drop one of them due to save + regen and him wiping every rank i generate... but the damage was done that bk unit was glued. and the rest of his army crumbled soon after... with the bk helpless to do much about it
I think fielding a BK unit is good cause we do need something that can slap a very tough unit with a high chance of getting it done in 1 turn... i carry one too 5 men - no kastellan and strigoi banner + 1 cheapo vampire knight + arkhan i try to not make that unit "the" unit in my army. But part of a larger tactical plan.
Also i think we should have a game plan set to know what they can and cant do... also anticipating the enemies obvious tactics like Lizardmen baiting etc... Having a unit of dire wolves infront/ kept on their wings or rear of them help solve some of those issues. Also looks kinda cool to have a pack of wolves running infront of my BK
I think fielding a BK unit is good cause we do need something that can slap a very tough unit with a high chance of getting it done in 1 turn... i carry one too 5 men - no kastellan and strigoi banner + 1 cheapo vampire knight + arkhan i try to not make that unit "the" unit in my army. But part of a larger tactical plan.
Also i think we should have a game plan set to know what they can and cant do... also anticipating the enemies obvious tactics like Lizardmen baiting etc... Having a unit of dire wolves infront/ kept on their wings or rear of them help solve some of those issues. Also looks kinda cool to have a pack of wolves running infront of my BK
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