Vampire Counts against High Elves... 2000 point full report

[Elven-Lord]

2000 Point High Elves Vs Vampire Counts

Vampire Side
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High Elf Side

Biggest hills are Steep.

Vampire Counts List

Vampire Lord
Hand Weapon
Magic Level +1
Vampiric Powers - Forbidden Lore, Dark Acolyte, Lord of the Dead
Book of Arkhan
370

Vampire
Avatar of Death
Infinite Hatred
Dispel Scroll
Tomb Blade
195

Vampire
Avatar of Death
Infinite Hatred
Dispel Scroll
Blood Drinker
210

20 Crypt Ghouls
Crypt Ghast
168

20 Skeletons
Full Command
180

20 Sketetons
Full Command
180

5 Dire Wolves
Doom Wolf
50

5 Dire Wolves
Doom Wolf
50

20 Grave Guard
Full Command
Banner of the Barrows
315

4 Blood Knights
Full Command
270

Total : 1987

High Elf List

Prince
The White Sword
Armour of Caledor
Guardian Pheonix
240

Noble
BSB - War Banner
Dragon Armour
Great Weapon
124

Mage
2 Scrolls
140

Mage
2 Scrolls
140

20 Spears
Full Command
205

19 Spears
Full Command
196


23 Pheonix Guard
Full Command
Amulet of Light on Keeper of the Flame
390

5 Dragon Princes
150

5 Dragon Princes
150

Repeater Bolt Thrower
100

Repeater Bolt Thrower
100

Repeater Bolt Thrower
100

Total : 2000

Magic

Vampire Lord
• Raise Dead
• Gaze of Nagash
• Summon Undead Hoard
• Invocation of Nehek
• (Bound Spell)

Vampire
• Invocation of Nehek
• Raise Dead

Vampire
• Invocation of Nekek
• Raise Dead

High Elf Mage
• Shield of Saphery
• Drain Magic

High Elf Mage
• Shield of Saphery
• Drain Magic

Deployment
Dire Wolves - Vampire Lord - Blood Knights - Grave Guard -----Ghouls - Sketetons - Skeletons - Dire Wolves
........................................................................Vampire in GG....................................Vampire in.....................

Dragon Princes ----------------- Spearelves ---- Pheonix Guard - Spearelves --------------------------- Dragon Princes
....................................................Mage.............Prince BSB...........Mage....................................

RBT.......................................................................................................................RBT.....RBT.............................


Vampire Count Turn 1
Movement
Both Dire Wolves march forward 14” towards Dragon Princes.
Blood Knights march forward 14”
Vampire Lord marches 12” forward
Everything else marches forward 8”

Magic
Failed Raise Dead
Failed Raise Dead
Failed Gaze of Nagash
Failed Curse of Years
Failed Summon Undead Hoard
(Bound) Book of Arkhan - Dispelled on 8

Shooting
None

Close Combat
None

High Elf Turn 1
Movement
Both units of Dragon Princes charge opposing Dire Wolves
Spearmen and Phoenix Guard March forward 10”

Magic
Failed Drain Magic
Failed Drain Magic

Shooting
RBT in front of Blood Knights misses
Far RBT hits flank and kills 1
Other far RBT hits flank and kills another.

Close Combat
Both units of Dragon Princes score exactly 5 wounds and wipe out their Dire Wolves
Both Units Retrain

Vampire Counts Turn 2
Movement
Ghouls charge opposing spears
The 2 blood knights charge the other spears
The Grave Guard charge the Phoenix Guard
The far right Skeletons charge the restrained Dragon Princes.
The remaining Skeletons march 8

Magic
The Vampire Lord (not in combat) tries Invocation of Nehek 6 times with 6 Power Dice. These are the results.
Dispelled
Failed
Failed
Dispelled
Scrolled
Failed

Shooting
None

Close Combat
(In all combats we moved from right to left)
Dragon Princes against Skeletons
Dragon Princes score 6 hits on Skeletons and 4 wounds
Horses get 1 wound
The Vampire scores 2 hits on Dragon Princes, the 1 wound is saved. Dragon Princes win by 1. 1 Skeleton Crumbles

Spearelves against Ghouls
Mage hits, no wounds
8 Hits
1 Wound
Ghouls get 6 hits and 2 wounds
Spears fail break test and flee 6”
Ghouls pursue 6” and destroy Spearelves and Mage

Phoenix Guard against Grave Guard (Battle of the Guards)
Prince scores 3 hits and 3 wounds, no killing blows, 1 Save
BSB hits 3 times, wounds 3 times, no saves
1 Phoenix Guard hit, 1 wound, not saved.

Challenge between Phoenix Guard Champion and Vampire
Phoenix Guard Champion hits and wounds once
Vampire hits champion once, wounds once, Champion ward saves
Because of War Banner on top of combat res Phoenix Guard win by 9 so 9 Grave Guard Crumble

Spearelves against Blood Knights
Mage hits but doesn’t wound.
3 Spear hits, 3 spear wounds
Blood Knight gets 2 hits and 1 wound
Nightmare misses

Blood Knight vs Spear Champion Challenges
2 hits by Spear champion, no wounds
3 hits by Blood Knight Champion
2 Wounds

High Elf Turn 2
Movement
Non Combat Dragon Princes (on the left) turn 90o towards the fight in the middle

Magic
This part was forgotten

Shooting
One bolt thrower gets 4 hits using volleys on the lone vampire lord and does 1 wound.
The other two also fire volleys at the Lord and get 3 wounds. Killing him.

Close Combat
Dragon Princes against skeletons
8 Hits by Dragon Princes, 4 Wounds
Vampire does 3 wounds on Dragon Princes. All saved.

Battle of the Guards
Phoenix Guard Champion does last wound on the vampire, killing him.

Princes get 2 hits and wounds on Grave Guard
BSB gets 3 hits but no wounds.
2 Phoenix Guard hit, 2 wounds, 1 saved.
2 Grave guard hit back. 2 hits and wounds on the Phoenix Guard. 1 successful and 1 failed save. The wound left is then saved by the 4+ ward save.
Phoenix Guard win by a lot due to static and kills and banner. Grave Guard completely crumble.

Spearmen against Blood Knights
4 hits but no wounds by Spearelves.
2 hits and wounds by Blood Knights. Both crumble due to static.

Vampire Counts Turn 3
Movement
Ghouls and Skeletons turn 90o to face Phoenix Guard.

Magic
No Vampires alive not in Close Combat

Shooting
None

Close Combat
Dragon Princes against Skeletons.
2 hit by Dragon Princes, 1 wound
2 horse hits, 1 wound
1 hit by skeletons
1 wounds
Vampire does 2 hits (failed reroll) 2 wounds, 2 saves
Dragon Princes Pass Break Test

High Elf Turn 3
Movement
Phoenix Guard turn 90o to face the ghouls
Dragon Princes march 16” towards the other Dragon Prince combat
Spearelves wheel 4” and march 6 more

Magic
Shield of Saphery cast on combat Dragon Princes - Scrolled
Cast again using other mage (This mage is dead but we did not realise at the time. But the 1 save done does not make any real difference to the end result.

Shooting
12 RBT volley shots on the skeletons not fighting. 8 hits and 6 wounds
4 more hits from another volley. 3 Wounds.

Close Combat
Dragon Princes against Skeletons
3 hits by Dragon Princes. 1 Wound
2 Horse hits. 1 Horse Wound.
2 Skeleton hits. No wounds.
3 Vampire Hits. 3 wounds cause. 3 Saved.

Vampire Counts Turn 4
Movement
Ghouls charge Phoenix Guard
Skeleton charge Spearelves

Magic
No non combat casters available

Shooting
None

Dragon Princes against Skeletons
4 Dragon Prince hits. 1 Wound
1 Horse hits. 1 Wound
2 Skeleton Hits.
1 Wound
Saved by Shield of Saphery
3 Vampire Hits. 3 Wounds. 3 Saves.
Passed break test by Dragon Princes.

Phoenix Guard against ghouls
Phoenix Guard Champion challenges Ghoul Champion
1 hit and 1 wound by Phoenix Guard Champion (Kills Ghoul Champion)

The Prince does 2 hits and 1 wound
The Battle Standard bearer does the same.
2 Phoenix Guard hits and wounds.
Due to static, kills and banner High Elves win combat by 9. 9 Ghouls Crumble.

Spearelves against Skeletons.
The mage causes a wound.
13 Spearelf hits.
6 wounds.
Due to static and wounds High Elves win combat by 11. Skeletons crumble completely.

High Elf Turn 4
Movement
Spears march 10” towards the Dragon Prince and Skeleton Combat
Dragon Princes March 16” towards the Dragon Prince and Skeleton Combat

Magic
Failed Shield of Saphery on Dragon Princes.

Shooting
No Targets Available

Close Combat
Dragon Princes against Skeletons
3 hits by Dragon Princes, 1 wound, saved
1 horse hit, no wound
2 hits on Dragon Princes by skeletons, 1 wound, saved
3 hits by vampire, 2 wounds, 1 saved
Passed Break.

Phoenix Guard against Ghouls
4 hits by prince, 3 wounds
2 hits by BSB, 1 wound
5 hits by Phoenix Guard, 3 wounds.
Ghouls are wiped out.

Vampire Counts Turn 5 (Only Undead unit left in about 10 Skeletons against 2 Dragon Princes)

Movement
None

Magic
None

Shooting
None

Close Combat
Dragon Princes against Skeletons
1 Dragon Prince hit, no wound
No horse wounds.
2 Skeleton hits, no wounds
2 vampire hits, hatred means passed reroll, 3 wounds, 3 saved.

High Elf Turn 5 (We thought this was turn 6 by mistake so ended it after. It didn’t make a lot of difference)

Movement
Dragon Princes charge flank of skeletons fighting other Dragon Princes.

Magic
Forgotton

Shooting
Not targets

Close Combat
2 Hits by Dragon Princes on the charge, 1 Wound.
1 Dragon Prince not charging, 1 wound,
3 horse hits, 2 wounds.
2 Skeleton hits, no wounds
2 vampire hits, failed reroll, 1 wound, saved.
Dragon Princes win by 5, 5 crumble.

Victory Points
High Elves
3 Standards - 300
Opponents General Dead -100
Lord - 370
Vampire - 210
Blood Knights - 270
Grave Guard - 315
Dire Wolves - 50
Dire Wolves - 50
Skeletons - 180
½ unit of skeletons - 90
Ghouls - 168
1 Table Quarter - 100

Vampire Counts
Spearelves - 205
Mage - 140
½ Dragon Prince Unit - 71

Total High Elf = 2203
Total Vampire Counts = 420

High Elf win by 1783 Victory Points

Massacre

This is my 5th game with high elves and my friends 1st with vampire counts. Please help us by telliing us what we did wrong.

Thanks in advance

 

[The Dark Lord Mr Fluffy]

Hard luck man, but your list wasn't really too anti High Elf enough.

First of all, no nightshroud? Thats a must against HE, with a sword of might and maybe an enchanted shield on a vamp. That spells HE death.

I would have had a Necro in that match, with a powerstone and IoN, and a corpse cart with a balefire addition to screw up his magic. BUT I wouldn't have him on the cart, I'd have him behind a unit of skellys or maybe ghouls, to keep them at a good number from missle damage. I'd save the stone until it would make a big difference, like if they were about to charge a flank and needed to be replaced after losing massively from missle fire for example

And the Grave Guard against the Phoenix Guard, well that was never going to be pretty...
I would have used Wraiths with a banshee to scream them to death, 5 models in total, to get the all mighty Unit strength 5, enough to negate ranks :grin:

The Blood Knights needed some kind of missle protection, the dire wolves would have done this, but the Banner of Blood Keep would have been great to make sure that a lot of them will make it into combat, more then 2 anyway. Also 4 is the minimum choice to take, but they work better in a unit of 5 to 7, 4 means that they die to fast. And if you do have a vamp lord in there, make him into a land tank! Dread Knight, Red Fury, Infinate Hatred, Blood Drinker and some well placed moves will win the game with him in the Blood Knights unit alone

Hope that helped in any way

 

[adeadboy]

I have two thoughts for you...

- If you are going to run your lord around with no unit, put some armor on him. You have 65 points worth of magic items left to use.
Or stay in your bunker.

- Don't forget that you can cast all of your spells except gaze of nagash when you or locked in close combat. So charge in with your general and a scary unit and let the high elf faries quake at your necromantic might....

 

[Grish]

The vampires had confusing equipment. They had a 4+ AS in combat, with weapons that really didn't complement your force.

The blood knights are expensive and need one or both banners of Regen and 4+ WS. They are too big of a point sink not to properly protect them. In this list, as it's an infantry heavy one, I would drop them completely. They're a really heavy hitting unit, but really expensive, easily lead around, and High Elf just have too much shooting with the RBTs.

I would take fell bats to take out the RBTs; a unit of 5 or 6 should be decent.

The biggest issue with the VC list was that it had no plan; just random assortment of guys. He should have had a plan; either to win with Static CR with infantry, or pin with infantry and hit with hammers, or out magic. The Vampire heroes equipment doesn't make sense; for another 5 pts they could have taken Dread Knight and had their AS increased from 4+ to 2+, and extra attack from the horse. The 2nd vampire has illegal equipment. Tomb Blade/ Blood Drinker aren't that good IMO against High Elves. Better to get Sword of Battle or Biting Blade, especially with hatred.

VC can generate a lot of static CR, and that would be my approach for defeating high elves.

The VC player also seemed to have a pseudo magic approach; to be effective, really go for it. Give the Lord Master of the Black Arts, and the Skull Staff. This really will up your magic phase. Anyways, best advice for VC is have a focus. Don't be part infantry, part cav, part magic, part fighty, or you won't do well at any phase. Focus on being good at some and filling in the blanks with other units (eg. take dire wolves to help infantry not get flank charged).

 

[Elven-Lord]

i am obviously the elven player, but i am going to get the vc player onto this websites himself.

Anyway thanks for what to look out for!!!

BTW i have played 5 games with high elves and this is his 1st with VC... go easy on him...



EDIT:::The Dark Mentor is the other player::::

 

[The Dark Mentor]

Cheers for the Advice all!