vampires without grave guard. 1600pts

[janq79]

1 Vampire Lord
General; Magic Level 3; Lore of Death
The Arkayne: Master of the Black Arts
The Master: Summon Ghouls
Forbidden Lore
Black Periapt
Helm of Commandment

1 Vampire
Magic Level 1; Lore of Beasts
The Arkayne: Forbidden Lore
Power Scroll

1 Vampire
Magic Level 1; Necromancy
The Arkayne: Master of the Black Arts
Dispel Scroll
Ruby Ring of Ruin

10 Crypt Ghouls (Ghast)
20 Crypt Ghouls (Ghast)
20 Crypt Ghouls (Ghast)

1 Black Coach
1 Black Coach

Models in Army: 57


Total Army Cost: 1594.0

ok. i know i don't have a vampiric lore on the big vampire... but i think a death lore will be better in this case...

 

[Rhyspect]

For your lord to be able to take lore of death you need to give him forbidden lore so that he can choose other lores otherwise he has to take lore of vampires.

 

[janq79]

sorry, he ofcorse got forbidden lore. It was my mistake

 

[janq79]

i got question:

the transformation of kadon says, that after hero transforms into mountain chimaera, ot fire dragon character:

"cannot channel or cast spells, all magic items and mundane equipment stop working"

so if I have him Ethereal (a Vampire Lord can be) ... I've got myself an Ethereal Chimaera/Dragon?

 

[Mikael.K]

I think you have way too many points spent on characters. A good caster is the only vamp you need. For heroes I´d go for a cheap necro and a wight king. The ghouls units would benefit from beeing larger. 28 works good in 7x4 formation or 30+ in horde formation. I also dont see any benefit from having 2 coaches?

 

[Ricey]

two coaches is actually counter-productive, as it'll take longer to get both of em up and flying. Also agree that that you're investing waaaay too many points into characters. Try to bunch your units of ghouls into two groups of 28+, as opposed to 3 separate groups. You may also consider getting a little skeleton bunker to house your caster lord, otherwise he'll be a bit open to death; also helps that you have at least one banner in your army incase you roll the banner scenario. I'd try to replace the 2nd vampire thrall with a wight king bsb, that way you'll get some punchy power in your army.

 

[zanthodin]

In answer to your ethereal question: yes bloodline powers continue to work when transformed to yes you would indeed have an ethereal monster.

 

[Vreith]

In answer to your ethereal question: yes bloodline powers continue to work when transformed to yes you would indeed have an ethereal monster.

if only you could have ethereal & red fury combine with a mountain Chimera!
to be honest its better the red fury as they will just dispel it, then your lord will lose combats to there steadfast rank bonus if it gets run by a large unit, which a smart player would do with every opportunity, if they know vampire at all they know hes a 300 point bucket waiting to be eaten up for breakfast

that's my 2 bob

 

[janq79]

I think its better to do Lord do not push to fight unless witch the carstain ring.

but ethereal chimera is a nasty and tempting idea.
thank's a lot for advice.

i think' you are right.