Varghiest Conversion - need advice

[The_Peacemaker]

I'm wanting to do some Vargheists as Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

Rules wise and fluff wise here are my thoughts:
Vargheists stats are similar to a pegasus + rider in terms of attacks, wounds, flying, etc... Except they don't have any armour. So I figure these bret knights went more on the feral side like a strigoi so they ditched their armour, got themselves some hellsteeds. Now they are Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

I'm going to use the wings from the Vargheist kit. I need suggestions on the horse.
Hellsteeds are basically nightmares with wings. What I've done on my black coach is use Chaos Marauder horses since I think they look like plausible unbarded nightmares. So I figure I'll use the other 3 chaos marauder horses for the hellsteeds. And I figure I'll use their riders since they don't have much armour either. Then I'll throw on some Bret bitz to make them look more brettoni.

What do you guys think? or can anyone think of a better suggestion for horses and riders?

And any suggestions for other bitz?

 

[Bullhax]

I think this is really brilliant and will work very well.! The marauder horses are the best unbarded option imo.
The hardest part will be having the wings look good on the horses and getting the riders to look more bret'ty.. I do think though the ideas you've posted are the best way to do them with an unarmoured and feral feel!

 

[The_Peacemaker]

Actually, attaching the wings on the horses and making it look ok is easy. A few cuts, some glue, and some greenstuff to fill gaps.

The riders though are a bit harder. I got lots of bret models so tons of bitz. The small bret arm shields are the best piece to make undead look like brettonians. But making these guys look less warrior of chaos is the trick. I've scraped off all the chaos symbols.

Not sure what to use for heads. I might just use the bret helmets. If I use more fleshy heads then the trick is to make them look like a vampire head. Which I don't know how.

 

[Bullhax]

Good sounds like you are heading in the right direction, please post some pictures of your conversion once your done.!

I see what you mean, the marauder heads are rather fleshy and scraping off some to make them look more vampiric can't be done I think.. That leaves giving them a pale paintjob, but even then the will look off by my estimation..

If you want them to look feral, you could look into using ghoul heads. Either thar or heads from the mantic ghoul sprue (don't know if the scale will be off as mantic do tend to be a bit smaller and the marauders are rather huge)

if non of thar is to your liking the bret helms might be a good backup, but that would break the illusion a bit IMO.

 

[Mannerheim27]

Bret heads may be your best bet as you can offset the fleshy look with the steel helms they currently have. I think the ghoul heads idea would be spot on. You should be able to find some online actually quite easily. Put those on the bodies of the knights and you should be set. To add a little variety, include some of the Bret heads on the sides or stowage of the mounts to make it look like they're carrying the helmets. Then you could have the odd rider or two wearing the helmets as well, be it very beat up and ragged looking helmets.

I'd love to see pics!

All the best,

Jake

 

[Lynks]

... why did i not think of hellsteed knights as varghiests... I hope to see these soon peacemaker!

 

[Wolfen]

Mine use Bret pegasus models with vargheist/gargoyle wings. Riders have Chaos warrior weapons. One uses the helmed head from the zombie dragon rider, others use Bret heads, some will have ghoul heads.

 

[The_Peacemaker]

Those mantic heads seem vampire-ish enough. Although I'll probably just end up using bret helmet heads with some wear and tear on it. Mainly because I don't want to pay like 5 bucks for price/shipping on 1 or 2 heads.

... why did i not think of hellsteed knights as varghiests... I hope to see these soon peacemaker!

Heh, it took some brainstorming. I like the varghiest models and was trying to decide weather to build varghiest or crypt ghouls. Theres not much you can do with the leftover crypt ghoul bitz but leftover varghiest bitz are wings!!!! Originally I figured on using a skeletal steed and greenstuff some fleshy tendons and muscle, maybe use the varghiest heads too and they would be mini-terrorgheists. But the skeletal steeds are a bit old and didn't look to good. Also the image in my head had flames in the eyes and hooves, leaping demonically in the air.... I knew I couldn't reproduce that! lol.

Then I thought about peg knights! I had just put together 4 pegasus for my Brets but I realized I had the 3 marauders horses in my bitz.

Mine use Bret pegasus models with vargheist/gargoyle wings. Riders have Chaos warrior weapons. One uses the helmed head from the zombie dragon rider, others use Bret heads, some will have ghoul heads.

I thought of the same thing but my pegasi already had their wings all glued on in special positions for my bret army.

I'll have pics posted soonish, at least of the mounts. Riders might take a while longer since I'll probably take a while to hum and haw over the options for heads, arms, weapons, and various bitz to glue on them. And who knows, I might expand my greenstuff skills just for these guys.

 

[gambit4802]

I'm going to use this in the expansion of my army! This is a great idea!

I'm wanting to do some Vargheists as Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

Rules wise and fluff wise here are my thoughts:
Vargheists stats are similar to a pegasus + rider in terms of attacks, wounds, flying, etc... Except they don't have any armour. So I figure these bret knights went more on the feral side like a strigoi so they ditched their armour, got themselves some hellsteeds. Now they are Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

I'm going to use the wings from the Vargheist kit. I need suggestions on the horse.
Hellsteeds are basically nightmares with wings. What I've done on my black coach is use Chaos Marauder horses since I think they look like plausible unbarded nightmares. So I figure I'll use the other 3 chaos marauder horses for the hellsteeds. And I figure I'll use their riders since they don't have much armour either. Then I'll throw on some Bret bitz to make them look more brettoni.

What do you guys think? or can anyone think of a better suggestion for horses and riders?

And any suggestions for other bitz?

 

[gambit4802]

I'm going to use this in the expansion of my army! This is a great idea!

I'm wanting to do some Vargheists as Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

Rules wise and fluff wise here are my thoughts:
Vargheists stats are similar to a pegasus + rider in terms of attacks, wounds, flying, etc... Except they don't have any armour. So I figure these bret knights went more on the feral side like a strigoi so they ditched their armour, got themselves some hellsteeds. Now they are Vampiric Bret Pegasus riders.

I'm going to use the wings from the Vargheist kit. I need suggestions on the horse.
Hellsteeds are basically nightmares with wings. What I've done on my black coach is use Chaos Marauder horses since I think they look like plausible unbarded nightmares. So I figure I'll use the other 3 chaos marauder horses for the hellsteeds. And I figure I'll use their riders since they don't have much armour either. Then I'll throw on some Bret bitz to make them look more brettoni.

What do you guys think? or can anyone think of a better suggestion for horses and riders?

And any suggestions for other bitz?

 

[illusionarypresence]

I've got a whole bret / undead army, including some bret peg knights as you describe. I used may raster horses with peg knight barding on back, vargheist wings and old metal chaos knight bodies with bret weapons and shields and a crest added.

Look spot on I reckon, nightmare to rank up with the wings etc.

Try searching for my username to find topic, think its called mousillon or something. Can't remember if I've posted pics or not, but there definately are some of vamp on hellsteed