Why the great divide in response to Twilight

[Christophe von Carstein]

Why has Twilight caused such a great dividing gap between vampire fans?

Personally from the 50 minutes of it I've seen before i wanted to rip out my own eyes. It was because there is no blood and gore i genreally associate with vampires, for a love story it was still suprisingly bad (i'd rather have watched romeo and juliet starring Leonardo DiCaprio and thats bad) because it's basically two social outcast borderline emo kids who fall for each other.

But thats just what i think i want to hear what other people think. Because the essay i'm doing about vampire films i'm not allowed to get too personally involved by expressing what i think.

Any comments?

 

[Vall]

Well on one hand you have those who are enthralled by the basic concept of a mortal falling in love with a vampire.(could get very kinky:lol I have noticed that these are generally teenage girls, so it must be assumed that teenage girls enjoy having things that are forbidden.

On the other hand you have the people who are disgusted by Meyers representation of the undead. She basically humanized the vampire so that it is no longer a vile beast.

 

[The Inspector]

The great divide is as apparent and as dependent on who has a pee-pee and who has a woo-woo.

 

[Crimson]

"Stephen Kings Slaps Stephanie Meyer around wih his pop-novelist sausage"

Bahahaha! Owned!

 

[The Inspector]

"Stephen Kings Slaps Stephanie Meyer around wih his pop-novelist sausage"

Bahahaha! Owned!

Oh wow. Consider that link bookmarked, and I will read it later!

 

[The Dark Sheep]

Great link :lol:

 

[ironlord]

maybe the divide is because of how vampirism used to be conceved, since before stoker penned his work vampires have been considered evil and something to be shunned
so this gave rise to a forbidden fruit love between people and vampires, we wanted to explore this strange section of lore, however this has been done mostly in the dark alleys and the corners of the world by good people (dont worry i wont accuse people who like vampires of being evil) but the main thing about such study is that it was done away from the mainstream of life and the popular culture
so when the twilight novels and movie became the centre of a pop culture shift there were obviously some mixed feelings about the whole idea of something that was so secret becoming something so popular suddenly overnight
its like we have done the work and built up the culture through years of hard work and developing the older works of people like stoker and then suddenly a big name hollywood director has poked his head in on our work, seen a few things and began publishing it in movies and exposing the work to the main stream society who suddenly took this up and now idolise its face value without looking into the true things behind the hollywood facade
they have just seen the twilight movies and thought, "this is what it means to be a vampire"
they see the nice looking girl getting the attention of a cute guy and there not being any problems with their relationship (aside from his vampirism) and think that if they immitate her they will have such a care free existance

so people who truely love everything about vampires and the horror they CAN represent see these want-to-bes and despise them because they are just latching on too a new trend created in LA (not that LA is the centre of evil in the world)

thats just my opinion though, i realise that i may have let my fingers fly across the keyboard on this subject

 

[Trevy the Great]

From what I've seen among my friends (yes, I have them) and average High-School students is that the girls like the series more than guys (read Crimson's link to answer all of your questions).
The thing that I don't get, however, is that if girls are attracted to handsome vampire guys, why I am I not a stud?! It's not fair! :lol:

 

[Ricw]

The great divide is as apparent and as dependent on who has a pee-pee and who has a woo-woo.

I'm confused as to why there was a response after this one. This sort of sums it all up doesn't it? :devil:

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I had to resurrect this thread.

Last night I was subjugated to the torture that was Twilight. We borrowed it off a friend, and I thought you never know.....

It's worse than what I've heard. You know how teenagers stare at each other when they like each other? Ok so that's the first half of the movie out of the way. No seriously, that's what they mainly did for first part of the movie.

The vampire was so bloody introverted and full of self loathing and pity I wanted to reach into the TV and slit his wrists for him, hell I'm surprised he didn't do it himself. Then again the mindless droning of the girl was even worse - I get it. You like to act like a social outcast (even though everyone in the weird school fancies her), but I don't need reminding of it and it drilling in in every bloody scene!!

However I was brave. I stood my ground and prayed it would get better. An hour passed - I still feel like the story hasn't kicked off properly. If it was any slower it would be going in reverse, and then finally.

"Your a vampire" (well no sh*t sherlock, considering he had to move like a bullet, stop a van that was about to crush you (which the WHOLE school saw and then conveniently forgot), have ice cold skin, colour changing eyes, didn't come out on sunlight - and you still had to get a bloody book to figure it out!)

So we have it, yes he is a vampire. Then he said she doesn't understand what a vampire truly is, that he must stand in a conveniently placed spot of sunlight for him to realise how different he truly is.

I expected him turning into a beast, his skin turning black, getting angry - something vampire like.

What does he do?

He f*cking TWINKLES!!! His skin twinkles like Tinkerbell the bloody fairy in the sunlight!!! What kind of bloody vampire is he?!! I actually turned to the missus and said "WTF???!!!"

So then Twinkles and Moaner then proceed to bounce around the forest, (her on his back) with him giving spider man a run for his money for climbing stuff.

Well the bad guys turned up (I say bad guys, one looked stoned, one looked like a prostitute and the leader couldn't be arsed and tried helping the good guys out) I really REALLY wanted them to kill Twinkles and co. Alas it was not to be.


So in summary, this was the biggest pile of crap I have ever scene. Period.

 

[Zephyr]

Maybe it is because Meyer has written some lame love story with cardboard characters, no plot development and borrowed some stuff from mythology that has been an all time favorite?

Seriously she could have made her characters anything at all but she choose vampires because hey they sell well. We've seen the mythological vampire change throughout the years; from a smelly farmer to aristocratic count to the average guy who fights for his soul (Louis from Anne Rice).
Twilight has just gone a step too far IMO, vampires are changed so much from what everybody perceives to be one it only appeals to those who like the (abysmal) story she penned down.

I know from Twifreaks how the story advances and it will come as no surprise that the main Mary Sue character gets pregnant (not Undead then?!) and the love story gets even more complicated as various night-critters get involved *sighs*

I hate Twilight:mad2:

 

[The Dark Lord Mr Fluffy]

Ahahaha! Oh my, I've been having the same argument with my girlfriend Her only defense is "Its Rob Paterson"

I saw the cursed film when my friend turned it on as a joke after a night messing around with shreddies, lucosade, skittles and vodka. He kept watching it though, and I had to as well! First of all, why can a vampire defy physics? When he jumps, he breaks nearly every law of Momentum! Paterson should have had his nose broken, just for appearing in this filth, the villain should have been a pirate, then I could say "At least it had a cool bad guy!", and the main girl actress (if you can actually call that acting) should have been played by a decomposing bucket of sea bass bile. Vampires aren't supposed to be all cuddly and human friendly! Who'd want to cuddle with that dirt bird whatsername when they could get to second bass All I'm saying is that it would have been easier to watch. The dialogue was painful, like pulling teeth and ramming them into your ears while you have to see vampiric pansies going hunting for big foot. Why was it all of a forest? How cheap was it to make? The only thing that made it successful was the poor idea that most teenage girls swallow whole "love beyond death". Oh big woop, as of teenagers know anything about either! (Yes, I'm slagging my age group ) They just eat anything they're spoon fed, and regurgitate mindless dribble on how "Dis iz da bezt film I has evor seen I ma lifez!"

Acting Skill: Comparable to a zombies weapon skill
Length: Just think, you'll never get that 100 mins of your life back
Story line: Em, dirt bird and gay vamp stare at each other, evil pirate says NO I Will eat you! then he gets torn to tiny bits IN THE BACKGROUND SO YOU CAN'T SEE! Beverly Hills Ninja had a better story line...
Characters to take note of: Well if you must pick, just look at "Paterson Quality" acting. He might as well have a full frontal lobotomy and make sure his audience is near lethally dosed with shrooms and bleach, he can't act any worse. (Although If he was unconscious for the next film "New moon", I might just go so I could shoot up the cinema afterwards)
More fun options: Eating your own head

Twilight Sucked

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

AT LAST!!! I have been forced to listen to most of my friends and others I know go on and on about this film because they think it's great. :mad2: Raaaarrrrgggghhh!!! I hate it, it is stupid, unbelievable, mind-numbingly boring and annoying. I am so glad so many others agree with me here.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Twilight (Books and Movie) is not about the Vampires but about Love.

Saying Twilight is a Vampire story is like saying New Moon (second book in series) is a Werewolf story. Note: The Wolves aren't Werewolves but Native American Spirit Warriors.

You might not like it but you cannot denigh that it's popular. My wife and several of her co-workers are part of what I call the Cult of Cullen.

 

[Swissdictator]

Tenny Bopper Emo Fantasy that is likely Badly Written with Sparkly Vampires = Worse then the combined suckage of Battlefield Earth, the Lost in Space Movie, and Richard Simmons.

 

[Gaz Taylor]

AT LAST!!! I have been forced to listen to most of my friends and others I know go on and on about this film because they think it's great. :mad2:

You should try having a sister-in-law who already talks none stop about stuff going on about it. Me and my wife have already had a barrage of stuff about how cool New Moon looks. At least my wife doesn't like it so I have no need to watch it. :lol:

 

[Onikaigo]

I've resisted posting about it this long, but I think I have to.

Twilight, and the Books series in general, (As has been stated multiple times) drug the entire Vampire mythos through a meat grinder, molded it like some sort of four year old in kindergarten, added a few eyes and a permanently open mouth and said. "That'd look good with Fangs. Let's try that."

And the world loves it. Some of the world. The very, very vocal younger-ish generation. I'm not a teenager, and I'm glad I made it out of that category so I don't have to be associated with that filth.

Vampires, as Bram Stoker, Folklore, Legends, and 'Real' accounts in New York and other deep, dark Cities back alley ways all say the same thing.

"We drink blood, kill people, enjoy doing so, and hate the living because they're weaker than us, but we still have to hide. You hurt our pride, so our fangs really, really enjoy human flesh."

Versus Emopire, which is what they've become.

"I'm an inherently good person in a bad situation. I have morals! I don't want to kill people, I want to have a white picket fence, three children, (How, may I ask?) and a wife who isn't afraid of rough sex."

That last part is the only thing that would make Twilight worth watching. Biting and breaking beds. Mmmmm.

Seriously. They destroyed, and to use a bad pun, completely de-fanged the entire Legend of the Vampire. If you're going to tell a story about Love after Death, use Rob! *points to his sig* He could use love too, why the Heck does Paterson deserve it more than Rob?

End rant. I'm done. ^.^

Rob FTW.