Zombie Dragon or Terror?
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Dreadlegions said:
Well neither seem optimal, but if I had to pick, it would always be the Terrorghiest.
The Zombie Dragon just doesn't feel like good value for the points you pay. It's a horrendously expensive mount, which is then only available on one of the most expensive Lords in the game. And, it just doesn't do much - 5 attacks at WS4, and that's about it (although thunderstomp is nice, when it works). The only good things are:
Swarm of Flies: -1 to hit for enemies is nice. However, it's basically countered by the terrible WS of the Dragon and the fact that it allows far more models to attack the Lord on top.
Pestilential Breath: An interesting breath weapon but, suffers the same flaw of all WH breath weapons, in that it can only be used once per game.
Anyway, I prefer the Terrorghiest because:
- The Lord + Mount will generally be cheaper than the above.
- Whilst the Terrorghiest isn't good in combat, this can be countered to some degree by the SGK on top.
- Unlike the Zombie Dragon, the Terrorghiest + SGK doesn't need to be in combat to be effective. It essentially has a breath weapon that can be used every turn - and a damn good breath weapon at that (which can be further improved by giving the SGK AoDM).
- It's a giant, undead-bat - what's not to like?
I guess I prefer the Terrorghiest because it gives the Lord new options (more manoeuvrability, better protection than it he simply had wings himself and, most importantly, a scream attack). And, they can be used to cover their weaknesses - the SGK can make up for the Terrorghiest's deficiency in combat (should the need arise), and the Terrorghiest can devastate enemy units without ever entering combat.
The Zombie dragon does very little outside of combat (and not much even then), and VLs are already good in combat. It feels like you're paying an awful lot, for a marginal improvement in combat potential, plus far greater vulnerability to cannons and far more attacks against you in combat.
Count Krieger von Blutstein
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Can I choose none of the above and instead vote for the Vampire Pimp-Mobile? (Coven Throne)
Seriously, that thing is awesome looking.
Anyway, I'd have to agree with Vipoid, the Terror is probably a more viable choice but honestly unless you're very interested in using them as a mount, I wouldn't take either.
I think the Terror can work well as just a rare choice, but as a mount I'm less impressed.
Seriously, that thing is awesome looking.
Anyway, I'd have to agree with Vipoid, the Terror is probably a more viable choice but honestly unless you're very interested in using them as a mount, I wouldn't take either.
I think the Terror can work well as just a rare choice, but as a mount I'm less impressed.
I prefer the zombie dragon.
-1 to hit everything in B2B can be awesome with the blender Vamp up top. Thunderstomp + swarm + terror + a few attacks & breath weapon. It's not an amazing mount choice compared to what some of the other armies have, but it helps make him more survivable. Plus we have something they don't: the vampire lord. The vamp does all the heavy lifting, so survivability should be the focus IMO.
Only the SGK can go on a TG, so that's a bit limiting. SGK is pretty great, but his options are more limited than the normal vamp lord - especially when it comes to defense. I love the SGK, but not for the role of general on a flyer.
If you want the scream, just keep a TG next to him and fly them up together. Hell, that would be a good way to keep the lord alive - people are afraid of the lord, but people lose their shit when they see a TG. It's a lightning-rod if i've ever seen one.
-aki
-1 to hit everything in B2B can be awesome with the blender Vamp up top. Thunderstomp + swarm + terror + a few attacks & breath weapon. It's not an amazing mount choice compared to what some of the other armies have, but it helps make him more survivable. Plus we have something they don't: the vampire lord. The vamp does all the heavy lifting, so survivability should be the focus IMO.
Only the SGK can go on a TG, so that's a bit limiting. SGK is pretty great, but his options are more limited than the normal vamp lord - especially when it comes to defense. I love the SGK, but not for the role of general on a flyer.
If you want the scream, just keep a TG next to him and fly them up together. Hell, that would be a good way to keep the lord alive - people are afraid of the lord, but people lose their shit when they see a TG. It's a lightning-rod if i've ever seen one.
-aki
Not a fan of either on a mount. Our general's too important to make them such easy pickings for enemy shooting. And even against enemies without cannons, putting your general on their own is just asking for a combat res disaster.