Against OK, a miasma has a 66% chance of doing the same thing. This holds true for any ws3 opponent, regardless of itp,, etc...
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Good point BigBadBat.
Also an Ogre(core) costs over the double of a Swordmaster so I'm not sure I agree that the extra attacks are reason enough.
Also an Ogre(core) costs over the double of a Swordmaster so I'm not sure I agree that the extra attacks are reason enough.
I know Johnny. But most of my armies have a shadow caster in them, and speaking strictly on the matter of reducing enemies weapon skill to 1 I think its easier than the fear bomb.
Miasma also works against any unit from any army.
There are some VC builds, mainly banshee/wraith spam that have obvious synergy with the screaming banner, especially if you've got a vamp with AoDM to boost those banshees.
The points don't seem that bad in a tailored list, but those points could be spent better.
I would never purposefully build a fearbomb for competetive play, but sometimes depending on your list, it kinda builds itself.
Miasma also works against any unit from any army.
There are some VC builds, mainly banshee/wraith spam that have obvious synergy with the screaming banner, especially if you've got a vamp with AoDM to boost those banshees.
The points don't seem that bad in a tailored list, but those points could be spent better.
I would never purposefully build a fearbomb for competetive play, but sometimes depending on your list, it kinda builds itself.
Johnny-Crass said:
Fearbomb is a joke. Never rely on a joke, Fearbomb is an illusion not a sure thing for our army
The Sun King said:Johnny-Crass said:
Fearbomb is a joke. Never rely on a joke, Fearbomb is an illusion not a sure thing for our army
But if you know you are playing a non ITP army then it is not a joke and is very reliable.
Yorga said:Fear bomb works great if your buddy says, "Hey..bringing my Orcs and Goblins over to fight on Saturday." In tournament play it is as much as gimmick as the Wraith Shield.
And even then, they could be bringing Savages, Trolls, and Black Orcs, and thus ignore the Fearbomb altogether.
Dear Johnny,
i'll be playing the summer scenario of the badland (the battle for Morgheim) within a few week.
for the occasion, i'll have the pleasure (displeasure) of fighting 2000 pts of dwarves
the general is a caster vampire lord (lvl 4, MotBA, Dragonhelm and book of Ashur) (not the best build, but it was made for fun)
i have 2 heros that i can take, (from the daemon book since i play with 2 armies) one herald of khorne (juggernaut, +1W, frenzy, sword of battle, obsidian armor) and one herald of Tzeentch (death master, spellbreaker and power scroll)
i can also create 1 unit (from either books) with a banner of devastating charge (+1 A/models on the charge)
i know his general is going to be an anvil lord stealing power dice and that he like to have tons of magical war machines.
what would you do ?
thanks
Dave
i'll be playing the summer scenario of the badland (the battle for Morgheim) within a few week.
for the occasion, i'll have the pleasure (displeasure) of fighting 2000 pts of dwarves
the general is a caster vampire lord (lvl 4, MotBA, Dragonhelm and book of Ashur) (not the best build, but it was made for fun)
i have 2 heros that i can take, (from the daemon book since i play with 2 armies) one herald of khorne (juggernaut, +1W, frenzy, sword of battle, obsidian armor) and one herald of Tzeentch (death master, spellbreaker and power scroll)
i can also create 1 unit (from either books) with a banner of devastating charge (+1 A/models on the charge)
i know his general is going to be an anvil lord stealing power dice and that he like to have tons of magical war machines.
what would you do ?
thanks
Dave
i can make a unit of 30 bloodletter with the banner and include it for my core.
If i take an herald, it'll have to be one of the 2 i mentioned before (the one on the juggernaut to give them hatred).
Aside from that, the rest will have to be from the vampire army book.
I was thinking hamster (dire wolves), black knight, vargheist, terrorgheist to put pressure on his war machines early.
If i take an herald, it'll have to be one of the 2 i mentioned before (the one on the juggernaut to give them hatred).
Aside from that, the rest will have to be from the vampire army book.
I was thinking hamster (dire wolves), black knight, vargheist, terrorgheist to put pressure on his war machines early.
I think a Varghulf would be better than a terrorghiest (scream gasp!) against dwarf gun-line solely because of base size and march ability.
Now I hope that it is common knowledge that I despise Blue Table Painting and their abominations they call "gaming videos". But I came upon this little gem and after watching the whole thing while basing my woodelves I wanted to kill myself. Thought I would share as it is great for a miserable laugh.
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/Xrr9qpOTimI[/video]
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[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/Xrr9qpOTimI[/video]
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@ Johnny:
Yeah I watched this one before. They are pretty good at painting, but their Battle Reports are to full of mistakes to be fun to watch. At least you could focus your agony at the video, rather then the basing, cuz I believe you despise that just a tad more
Yeah I watched this one before. They are pretty good at painting, but their Battle Reports are to full of mistakes to be fun to watch. At least you could focus your agony at the video, rather then the basing, cuz I believe you despise that just a tad more
Anywho speaking of tournaments and such which do you think is the stronger HE build.
Coven of Light or Shadow Book Hordes?
Coven of Light or Shadow Book Hordes?
That's a tough question. I've seen the Shadow one in play (albeit with the unkillable Archmage rather than the Book), and I've come away pretty impressed. That said, the Light Coven intrigues me. Try that one out and get back to us.
I don't know any business about rigging events, but I do read Mike Hengl's Warriors of Chaos batreps (he's from Ld2), and that dude is good. Like, really really good.
I don't know any business about rigging events, but I do read Mike Hengl's Warriors of Chaos batreps (he's from Ld2), and that dude is good. Like, really really good.
Light all the way. Ogres will have an easier time dealing with a lone caster due to HH. Light mages will annihilate chaff and annoying^&*($# flying characters. Warmachine protection is another benefit.
There's talk of rigged events in the north east that some of my acquaintances have attended but if I was ever cheated in such a way, there would be some very large problems for those involved.
There's talk of rigged events in the north east that some of my acquaintances have attended but if I was ever cheated in such a way, there would be some very large problems for those involved.
rothgar13 said:
Mike IS good and honest. He frequently takes First Place. He's one of their best. I don't know about them rigging events. They have shown club favortism when they play each other at tournaments as far as soft scores but then what club doesn't?
Many of the people Johnny plays with and against attend the big San Francisco Tournament known as QCR. They do have a bizzarre subjective comp system. You don't really know how to build your army so as to not offend the judges. It is rated by judges who give you a score and then pair you accordingly for first round. Then you opponents rate you too. SAWS does something similar but SAWS (Sacramento Area Warhammer Society) gives you the comp scoring up front so you can tailor your list to maximize points.
So maybe that is what Johnny's friends mean about 'rigging'. They might believe that the comp system at QCR is designed to favor what the members of LD 2 are playing for that year. Frankly I don't believe it. That would take more coordination than I think they possess.