Dear Johnny

[Count Matthewzilla]

All good points.

I already have 20 forsaken...yum...

No what to do with my special. I have 6 old school d.ogres. 5 knights and a shrine...lol.

 

[Yorga]

Big Papa will never hit him. WS 4 means hitting on 6s. Only has a meager 4 attacks. I lost Big Pappa to Duke's Coven Throne riding vamp Lord.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Oh yorga how you forget Miasma and ASL aura.

 

[Yorga]

You make it sound like the DP has no magic of his own.

 

[Swaiper]

Hello there fine gents, I have a couple of questions.

1. Can I scream with my TG into a challenge?

2. I have been toying with putting my VL in a Zombie Dragon for a while now since I looked at the DP in new WoC. Is it viable to give him the usual QB, RF, ToP, etc build but give him glittering scales? With Swarm of Flies he could only be hit on a 6 in CC. If you give him Dread Knight that is. Or is it just too many points in one place?

3. I noticed on your battle report against TK that when you overrun (I think it was overrun atleast) you didnt move the models you ran into so that as many as possible could hit, you just kind of stood at the side(of the enemy models). I think it was in the later rounds and with your Gryphon Knights.

4. Whats so good with Forsaken? To me it seems like you lose too many attacks if you use more than 2 ranks...

5. Yaaay more rambling road rants!

 

[Alzarakh]

Dear Johnny,

My friend bought skaven and now wants to play them to death but mixes up the rules and what not all the time. I have a few quick questions:

1) What happens when you charge a fleeing unit?

2) Do fleeing units ever have to take a panic test? The example is that I had his plague monks (I think) running away from a varghulf charge, the following combat my GG made his clanrats run (same turn). Would this cause a panic in the monks?

3) What unit type are skaven weapon crews? (Mini doomwheel and mortar to be specific) I only ask because I couldn't find it anywhere and we assumed is was infantry like their parent unit. They are weird units that kinda act like chariots and stone throwers so we were confused with terrain and charges and stuff.

4) Can you deathsnipe into combat? We allowed it because it targeted a single model and had LoS. Need this one cleared up because it is a big deal game wise.

5) Do warmachines take leadership tests in combat? Again, I said yes, but he lost his cannon to a spirit host on the charge because of my +1 CR and got mad.

6) How do you deal with a player that tries to cheese you? I know I need more people to play with but he's about it, and having to measure everything myself to make sure he's not cheating is getting old fast... I know it's because I play as tactical as I can (I'm trying to be a better player) So I'll make sure I'm that 1 inch out of his range so he can't hit me/ I redirect him/ I get the charges. Very frustrating having to pull out your tape and hold it base to base and argue that he's out of range. :slapface:

Thanks again! I'm sure more questions will come up in later games.

 

[Xivigg]

I'll try to answer your question

1. The challenge is declared at the start of the combat phase. But let's assume you have a challenge that last for a few round. The FAQ tell us that you can scream into a close combat. A challenge is a close combat. I would say i see no reason why you couldn't scream into one (aside than an opponent screaming cheese !!!).

2. Actually, the WoC DP is Ws8. So even with glittering scale, he would hit on 5's. With the sword of striking, he would hit on 4's (i'm not sure if he got re-roll or not). And he has the option to attack the ZD who wouldn't have any defense. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, i'm saying it won't have the effect you thought.

3. I'm not certain, i think he mentioned that they overrun out of the table but they let it at the edge where they will enter back on the table.

4. Don't know bout the forsaken...

5. Agree !! yay !!

 

[caratzillion]

Dear johhny, is there any way i can sneak a lvl 4 master necromancer with death lore into a 1000 points VC army?

and what do you think is some good synergy between 1000x2 point doubles vampire counts & tomb kings.

Thanks for your time!

 

[Swaiper]

My Zombie Dragon build wasnt made against a DP but to make a DP of our own ^^ (extremely hard to hit and a royal pain in the behind).

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Alzarakh
1. They flee from the charge again
2. No as they are already fleeing
3. Infantry
4. Nope Direct Damage is only out of combat
5. Yes
6. Take him out of a friendly environment (IE a game store) and have him play a pickup game against a stranger

Swaiper
1. Yes if the model is not in a unit who will soak up the wounds for him
2. I am just working on making the dragon work so I will get back to you
3. When you overrun it is treated as a fresh charge so you must maximise as much as you can with your own wheel.
4. Killing blow and hatred as a nasty combo and it is the same as warriors in two ranks
5. Indeed

And no there is no way to get a death lvl4 into 1k

 

[Swaiper]

Forsaken has Hatred AND Killing Blow now???? holy shit

Also, thx for the fast reply!

 

[Johnny-Crass]

MOK gives them hatred and they can ROLL up killing blow

 

[Yorga]

Johnny...buddy...amigo.. You KNOW a Zombie Dragon can't make it in a competitive all comers enviroment. Why are you going to try? The main reason is listed in your last RR (Rambling Rant). Cannons and stone throwers. That base is two freaking big. Center the small template means a deviation of at least 6 before the base is not touched. Whereas I think even a 2 inch deviation will get the template completely off a 50mm square. Of course there are sideways deviations...

Also, from your last RR, I agree about the leadership problem with Chimeras. Actually saw this a couple days ago and was part of the reason I posted about swapping in a Chaos giant for one. Not as fast but a lot more durable when it comes to those panic checks. I agree with you that a bsb is a must now. More so than a dispel scroll so I am retooling my second character for my Monster Mash (which I affectionately call Shaggoth Boy) list. Note...I am not actually using a Shaggoth but Ed Philips of Leadership Two inadvertantly coined that phrase when he fielded a list of all monsters and chariots back around 2001-2002?

 

[Johnny-Crass]

I made a Forest Dragon work so I have faith that I can make a Zed Dragon work Two Mortis Engines go go go!

And yah the loss of Will of Chaos was huge but no one seems to notice because OMGMONSTERDAEMONMASH!!

 

[caratzillion]

Thanks for reply!

 

[Alzarakh]

Thanks Johnny! Another few questions :

1a) If the unit fleeing from the charge is caught in any instance it is dead? So if I initially charge with a varghulf and he fails LD, runs, and I also charge with the dogs but the dogs catch him being faster, the unit gets destroyed? Does the unit flee twice because there two seperate charges? Are all charges considered "simultaneous"? noob questions I know, but it can get confusing.

2) If a fleeling unit runs through my unit, after dangerous terrain, am I able to pursue or do I stop 1" away from my unit after moving? This ones kinda wierd, I charged with my dogs on the rear of a clanrat unit and it was between my GG and the dogs. (they were fleeing from GG) Basically, dogs charge, rats run through GG, Can dogs keep going? There was no one else to redirect the charge too in my front arc.

3) If something ignores armour or negates it, you still get Regen or Wards saves? Armour saves are just armour saves? (Cannon ball at one of my necros and terrorgheist)

 

[Oxylepy]

Actually you may be able to get a Lvl4 MN in a 1000 point game...

The General of the army must be the character with the highest Leadership. It doesn't say they need the highest base leadership. So a Vampire in a unit holding a Standard of Discipline would be on par with the MN for Leadership, allowing you to choose the Vampire as your General... maybe, probably not but perhaps?

 

[caratzillion]

Actually you may be able to get a Lvl4 MN in a 1000 point game...

The General of the army must be the character with the highest Leadership. It doesn't say they need the highest base leadership. So a Vampire in a unit holding a Standard of Discipline would be on par with the MN for Leadership, allowing you to choose the Vampire as your General... maybe, probably not but perhaps?

We found this this too, but a mate said it's the character with the highest unmodified leadership.. anyone can shed a light on this? we discarded it as probably not legal.. but yeah somebody must know for sure

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Yupp highest unmodified is general

 

[Oxylepy]

Ungh that's a sad thing. And none of the SCs in Heroes can be General. It's like they didn't want you to have nice things

 

[caratzillion]

Ungh that's a sad thing. And none of the SCs in Heroes can be General. It's like they didn't want you to have nice things

Same goes for other things, like for instance it was FAQ'D that Nehekaran undead are "undead" so why don't our spells work on them as allies? well.. actually i don't know you tell me

 

[Swaiper]

Dear Johnny, I am once again in need of your help!

1. Can a lone model that requires LoS for spells see 360 degrees or is it just the front arc?
2. How do you determine what the front arc of a model is when he is in a unit? Is his front arc the same as the whole unit or can you just move him to the sides for a better arc?
3. Does things that affects models in base combat affect the second rank or just the first? Such as the -1 hit modifier from Zombie Dragons?
4. Will there be more Rambling Road Rants soon? ^^

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Just front arc
2. it is his front arc not the units so yes
3. Just the first
4. You mean this?
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/gEJ_FJw_rWo[/video]

 

[Swaiper]

Yaaaaay! I actually like the idea of a str 6 Thunderstomp with 5 extra str 6 attacks + 5 str 5 with RF ^^. Gives you some precision strike ability (it should win the combat for you coming with all that in the rear or in the side of some poor unit). You can heal the Dragon if worst comes to worst and I agree it is alot of fun

 

[Yorga]

Can Fencers Blades be taken by a character on a dragon since it is a paired weapon and according to page 91 brb, mounted characters cannot be so armed?