Greenies next for WFB!

[Anubis]

i doubt there will be a new book coming... IIRC, the blood angel dispatch actually mentioned 'a new codex' in the article. the O&G release simply mentioned 'lots of new models'.
still, it's good to see the greenies getting some love. they are one of the 2 starter set armies, but half their range is still ancient!!! (and those boar boyz are just plain god-awful!)

as for vetock writing the book, i'm not too thrilled... he pooched the skaven in my opinion;
pro's;
- regained all 13 original spells!
- vermin lord is back!
- cool special characters
- clanrats got cheaper & the half-point upgrades back
- new weapon teams are some good fun
- new war machines & the a-bomb border on over-powered
- SAD armies got tonned down thank god!

con's;
- magic items SUCK!!! too many '1 use only' items. he got rid of some of their most trusted & original items that they've always had like the bands of power or twisted crown. no new armour, weapons got worse, talismans suck now, arcane is a joke & enchanted is expensive.
the clan specific stuff is fairly blah as well... in short, skaven characters got over-nerfed big time!!!
- assassins are still crap for their cost.
- rat ogres are still not competitive in any way. worse still, you now have even fewer pack masters to keep them in line!
- the a-bomb is over-powered in the extreme! it's not game-winning by itself mind as there are plenty of counters, but it can take far too much focus to get rid of it and keep it down... (2 of 'em gets really stupid!)

basically i find that some of the things that needed fixing got fixed good. but, the skaven characters took a very un-nessessry hit, the units that needed the real work got left behind and i find that skaven armies have become very cookie-cutter as a result... (it's very predictable what a skaven army will contain.)
so yes, i'm really hoping that vetock isn't writing the O&G book, as i don't want to see the greenskin players have their book treated like the skaven one was...

sorry for the rant, but the skaven book has left me very dissapointed... (another reason why i'm sticking solely to vamps!)
cheers!

 

[Danceman]

New models. That is all there is to it. Haven't heard a word about the book and those rumours that has appeared has been shot down very quickly as 'wishful-thinking'. Though they might have had O&G in the works, for now, I expect nothing more than updated models. Seems to be alot of that coming up. Updating old models, that is.

If there happend to be an army book thrown into the mix, why not? Alot of green out there.

 

[Kaptain Von]

so yes, i'm really hoping that vetock isn't writing the O&G book, as i don't want to see the greenskin players have their book treated like the skaven one was...

Vetock made his Hobby Reputation as a greenskin player. I have a feeling your wish is not going to be granted.

I'll be honest, though, I like the Skaven book. I have no faith that it'll set any sort of trend (we'll get two like it and then the design philosophy will lurch again, probably as a result of getting Mat Ward to write anything not for Lord of the Rings), but I think it has the right level of crazy fantasy crap to avoid the overtly 'historical with wizards bolted on' business that some of the older books suffer from.