Official Rumour Thread: New Vampire Counts Book

[Sanai]

The ghoul king is mentioned as a seperate vamp in the warseer thread.
Also, the fact they call it a "Ghoul King" instead of just "a bestial vampire lord" pretty much yells "im a seperate vamp"

The hexwraiths have caparisons. The only army with caparisoned rather than barded steeds is bretonians.

 

[Sception]

I saw one or two mentions of a ghoul king, but nothing that seemed like it came from a real rumor source. Hopefully I just missed something, it's a necessary option for players who want the strigoi theme.

 

[Sanai]

For me the name is enough really, if it was "Strigoi" or "Bestial Vamp" I wouldnt think this, but "Ghoul King"? just out of nowhere they call something a ghoul king?

Oh well, we shall see in January

 

[El Syf]

Good to hear master necromancer's are back and the new model for Krell is awesome, come to think of it all the new models look superb. As someone else said only the cover art for the book is a bit crappy. Here's to the rules being in line with the models!

 

[Sception]

Ghoul king was a term used in the white dwarf that introduced the terrorgheist (something like: "the terrorgheist can be a mount for a ghoul king, which is a vampire lord with the ghoulkin bloodline power"). On the one hand, that such an odd and arbitrary term was used in white dwarf supports the idea that it could be a separate unit in the upcoming army book. On the other hand, it explains where the term would have come from if it was only wishful thinking.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Ghoul king got on my nerves when I first saw it, though it is referenced in novels saying the Strigoi were worshiped like kings or gods by ghouls and they rules them in their madness thinking back to their golden age making them march in a mockery of what their armies used to.
It may just be that now they have decided to bring something new to the table because of this and allow strigoi have additional effects on ghoul armies like their marching before battle etc.

But then again I complained like hell when I read SoM and the pacts in the back of that when it referenced Wight Lord instead of Wight King......
Was not a happy bunny.

 

[Sanai]

Those white dwarf pics mention a barrow kings army.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

I know but I find it hard to believe that was wrote on purpose, it may of been a leak yes but not a deliberate one.

 

[Tim]

I'm really looking forward to reading the book and coming up with a few themed armies.
Make a Kemler & Krell themed army and Ghoul King army and etc etc.
Still have some space in my battlefoam bag hope it all fits. :O

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Buy another,no way in hell you are fitting the mortis engine and the coven throne in the same bag.....
I don't even know how I will fit it in without bits of spirits breaking off.

 

[Tim]

Buy another,no way in hell you are fitting the mortis engine and the coven throne in the same bag.....
I don't even know how I will fit it in without bits of spirits breaking off.

I was kind of hoping I could cheat and do some magnetizing and fit it in 2 parts in 2 corpse cart slots.
As I don't think I will use both in one army, although not sure until the big picture is clear.

 

[Zhatan]

For me the name is enough really, if it was "Strigoi" or "Bestial Vamp" I wouldnt think this, but "Ghoul King"? just out of nowhere they call something a ghoul king?

Oh well, we shall see in January

Well it's not out of nowhere. In the 6th ed book, I think it was that one, strigoi are sometimes referred to as Ghoul Kings. It was said to be the name used by the people of the old world.

So imo it could still just be a strigoi vampire lord.
But as you say we shall see soon.

 

[Zhatan]

Buy another,no way in hell you are fitting the mortis engine and the coven throne in the same bag.....
I don't even know how I will fit it in without bits of spirits breaking off.

I was kind of hoping I could cheat and do some magnetizing and fit it in 2 parts in 2 corpse cart slots.
As I don't think I will use both in one army, although not sure until the big picture is clear.

It seems it would be possible to use both at least as one is supposedly a chariot mount for the lord and the other a rare choice.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

I thing you are being a bit ambitious considering the spirits of the dead swirling around the top of it......
We all know they will break off, just got to wonder how long they will last?
I think it will have the same height as the top the of the TG wings but at the end of the day you will have to have at least one of each.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I have created an update of all the latest rumours and pic here: https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Rumour-Compilation-Vampire-Counts-New-Release-14th-Jan-2012

Has anyone any info on points costs yet, I couldn't find any hard rumours? I would also love to hear if our vamps have finally got any tougher.....

 

[Zhatan]

I have created an update of all the latest rumours and pic here: https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-Rumour-Compilation-Vampire-Counts-New-Release-14th-Jan-2012

Has anyone any info on points costs yet, I couldn't find any hard rumours? I would also love to hear if our vamps have finally got any tougher.....

There has been talk about points costs over @ warseer but only for some units.

Skeletons....should be A LOT cheaper.
(40 Skellies with Full Command for less than 240 points. )

Crypt Ghouls... definitely a bit more expensive.

Zombies... even cheaper than the current one.

Fell Bats... cheaper.

Corpse Cart.... almost the same (but goes Special)

Black Knights.... cheaper.

Spirit Host... cheaper as well.

Varghulf... remains the same.

Dire Wolf....should be exactly the same.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Thanks!

I'll update the compilation thread.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

I am happy with all that bar the Ghouls but as long as they are core still I will survive.
With the Crypt Horrors being special we should be ok but hearing nothing about the Black Coach really has me nervous now.

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

Just an update of sorts about the mortis engine; the +2 to cast is only for the lore of vampires. So it wont really help the opponent that often.

 

[Zhatan]

Yes they way I understand it is the +2 to cast is lore of vampires only but the roll twice on miscast table is for any wizard within range.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

It can't be for every wizard in range, that has the potential to wipe out your army in a single dice role.
suffering 3 or more misscasts all at once is horrendous, its the match almost surely lost there.

 

[Pietr Von Carstein]

Is it not that you roll twice on the miscast table and the opponent picks which of the two you suffer?

 

[Forgotten Heretic]

It can't be for every wizard in range, that has the potential to wipe out your army in a single dice role.
suffering 3 or more misscasts all at once is horrendous, its the match almost surely lost there.

i'm pretty sure the way it works is if a wizard is in range of the engine and miscasts that wizard has to roll twice on the table and the opponent picks the result, not that every wizard in range suffers a miscast

 

[TMS]

These two scans were found on an imageboard earlier this evening. They are quite likely the final rules for both the engine and the throne, which ought to answer the current question pretty well.

Just click on the pictures some more to make them larger.

Engine
Throne

They might be something for the rumour compilation, DoN?

Edit: I've added them to the compilation. Ah, being a mod again feels good.

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

I could kiss you right now.
Just read them both and the coven throne looks the beast of the two......
Oooooo!.... I so excited.