Scream 2500 newbie

[Crusader169]

vampire lord- armour of destiny, sword of might, iron curse icon, aura majesty, fear incarnate, beguile, shield, lvl 3 vamps

master necro- lvl 3, dispel scroll

vampire- lvl 2 aura majesty, talisman preservation, forbidden lore, heavy armour/shield - used beasts lore

tomb banshee
tomb banshee
tomb banshee
tomb banshee

60 skeletons- fc, screaming banner

5 dire wolves
5 dire wolves

20 zombies
20 zombies

26 zombies

2wraiths/banshee

terrorgheist
terrorgheist


Hi, been playing on/off for a few months now and just started using this list. played a 1 day tourney which is just practice for a big tourney next month (2500, no comp).

so i think i came last out of 10. and i ended up playing ogres for all 3 games...

im looking for advice on how to improve a list like this. what i found is that i miss my vargheist/hulf with their super marching distance which my terrorgheist lack because i set them on the flank to far from my general.

im thinking of dropping one terrorgheist to get a varghulf/heist

CC welcome

 

[The Sun King]

Welcome to the forum dude!

Looks like a fairly good list. Couple of points ready for improvement though:

1. Don't go Skels, they are subpar and you need something that can kill stuff. Get 40 Ghouls with Ghast instead.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by: "2wraiths/banshee"?
3. Do not drop your 2 TG's they are essential in this list.
4. Your builds on your characters are probable the weakest part of this list so here goes:

VL: drop the levels on him, you've made what we call a Hybrid which is not that good IMO(others disagree). Give him Red Fury, Quickblood, Sword of Anti Heroes, drop the Armour of Destiny and get Charmed shield and Talisman of Preservation. That way you have an absolute killing machine with plenty of staying power.

Master Necromancer: Make him level 4(seneschal will disagree) but you really need that fourth level to be able to dispel and cast the spells you need. Most importantly make your MN use Lore of Death. This will be very powerful for a couple of reasons: a) he can snipe enemy characters with his LD 10 when he is in the same unit as the VL and you need Doom and Darkness for LD debuff on your enemy to get the most out of those screams.

Vampire: I like the powers you've chose for this guy but you should run Lore of Heavens(for the Signature Spell because it debuffs ld.. plus other awesome effects). Your guy is not that good though, since he isn't your general, don't waste the talisman on him, give him more offensive capabilities, I would suggest: Sword of Swiftslaying and ES.

 

[Crusader169]

hi thanks for response ill give this a try

how does the necro get the ld 10 of my vamp lord for using spirit leach.?

inspiring presence > gives ld but spirit leach says unmodified ld

thanks

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Unmodified is the highest ld in the unit

 

[Crusader169]

ok so if i put MN in the VL i can use the highest LD of the unit for spirit leech, does this also count if the MN is in another unit but within 12" for inspiring presence.

next time i play ill run that lord set up you suggested sun king.

i used to run somthing similar with the ogre blade though.

 

[The Sun King]

No problem dude! No it has nothing to do with IP it's only when the VL is actually in the unit.

 

[Crusader169]

Ok, heres a modified list i am going to try what you think? still not sure about the baby vamp still doesnt feel killy or much of a support.

i put the varghulf in because the wratihs werent doing it for me and the varghulf will be great cannon hunter. i tried the ghouls for the second time and they dont seem as good imo compared to skellies.. blasphemy some might say but thats my experince with them.

and talking to club members they dont see how a MN can get the ld10 buff and use it for spirit leech. due to the (unmodified) bit.
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vampire lord- heavy/shield, talis pres, sword of strife, otshard
red fury, quick blood, beguile 424 *lore vamps

master necromancer- lvl 4, 200 *death

vampire- heavy/ ench shield, sword striking, talis endurance, lvl 2 194 *shadow

necormancer- lvl 2, dispel scroll *vampires 125

banshee 95
banshee 95
banshee 95

5 dire wolves 40
5 dire wolves 40
5 dire wolves 40

30 zombies 90
30 zombies 90

65 skeletons- muso/banner 345

varghulf 175

terrorgheist- 225
terrorgheist- 225

 

[Crusader169]

well played a game with the list agains chaos warriors and i was tabled.

may have to copy paste some army lists from other users around here and see if they help or maybe i have to move to a more forgiving army...

 

[The Sun King]

You could use other people's lists but games are not won with a list it is won by outplaying your opponent with whatever you got. Against WoC Screams are very strong so take a look at those lists.

 

[Crusader169]

hmm yes reviewing the game i made big mistakes, found out the hell cannons shots scatter, fogetting thunderstomps which would have let my gheist survive..

anyways playig around with black knight list and defeated a HE player using teclis (geez his annoying)