Sunny's challenge

[najo]

You could also go massive unit of skeletons, grave guard with shields and black knights, supported by necromancer with vampire and a couple shadow vampires. That be yummy too.

 

[najo]

Can't edit again

Was going to add, you could even horde the knights

 

[najo]

No worries, sunny. Just throw one of my armies in there every now and then. Still can't edit in this thread.....sorry for multi post.

 

[The Sun King]

@ Johnny: I'm not too fond of having a big unit of Blood Knights since they get less attacks for their points the more ranks you get.

Johnny's Beast Challenge

LORDS
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Quickblood, Sword of Anti-Heros, Charmed Shield, Heavy Armour
Vampire Lord: Enchanted Shield, Forbidden Lore(Beasts), Talisman of Preservation, Level 4 Wizard Lore of Beasts, Heavy Armour

HEROES
Vampire: Red Fury, Sword of Swift Slaying, Dispel Scroll, Shield, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Red Fury, Sword of Strife, Shield, Heavy Armour

CORE
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
47 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter
8 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter

RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine
Total Army Points: 2997pts

Okay this was the most filthy thing I could come up with... just imagine a bubbled Savage Beast of Horros going off, the carnage would be unbelievable :konrad:

 

[Vipoid]

By the way, Sun King, I notice that the Vampire builds you suggest generally have 3+ or 4+ armour saves, but never seem to have ward saves beyond parry saves from their shields.

Do you think that it's not cost effective to give them better ward saves (e.g. a talisman of endurance), or is there another reason?

 

[The Sun King]

Well spotted Vipoid... but you miss an important thing in the list: Two Mortis Engines. They take care of the ++ protection

 

[Johnny-Crass]

One thing Sunny. Give the Beast Vampire Red Fury as powers cross over if you transform

 

[The Sun King]

Do you like the list otherwise? I don't think there is points enough for me to give him RF though.... although a RF Mountain Chimera sounds pretty epic.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

No I mean give your second Vampire Lord red fury instead of the first oneerv:

 

[Alzarakh]

Hey Sun King, I have a game planned on Sunday where I'm going to be playing the list you posted. I have a question about Okkam's Mindrazor.

How does it work now that it's been faq'ed? Do the skellies take the highest leadership in the unit now? (SGK, if I put him in there) or is it based off majority of the unit composition? Not sure if units take the highest leadership like in 40k 5th edition or if it's the majority. Wouldn't make any sense if it's majority as their already str 3. References to the rulebook (IoB) always welcome

Also, if I don't manage to get mindrazor do you think the list will be lacking in any way? (Playing O&G or HE)

If I have time I'll try and take pics and do a batrep and post to get feedback on my playing too.

Thanks!

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Mind razor just looks at your leadership so IP may be used

 

[Alzarakh]

Ah, Thanks Johnny. How do screams work then? (Sorry a little off topic but I've had this come up before)

Do units use the highest leadership (model) in the unit? (Let's say they're ouside the IP bubble and have a ld 9 char.) Does the unit become leadership 9 using the highest?

I ask this because I've laways used screams vs unmodded majority model leadership and need to clear that one up.

Thanks

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Screams use IP and highest in unit

 

[Alzarakh]

Thanks again! I found how that works now. It's all in the wording

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Btw your avatar is a bent and anoying card in legacy

 

[Alzarakh]

Naw, Ebon Hand hasn't really been played in years. Now, if we go back to the black summer, he was MVP. R.I.P. Necropotence... I miss old magic. :'(

Countertop, Junk, Jund, and Sneak 'n Show are annyoing... (I loves my enchantess and pox deck) Legacy is all about the $$$ now. Unless you can afford $2k decks, might as well play casual. I gave up on it, I cube/draft now mostly.

Totally off topic :tongue:

 

[Vipoid]

Well spotted Vipoid... but you miss an important thing in the list: Two Mortis Engines. They take care of the ++ protection

That's true, although I'm sure you used the same builds in lists lacking mortis engines.

Good point, anyway.

 

[The Sun King]

Never fielded Manny without Dual Engines

@ Johnny and Alzarakh: Ebon Hand was one of my fav cards when I was a Kid. I still play some legacy but it's quite casual, no one in my gaming group who has P9. I mostly draft nowadays though, friggin' love drafting.

 

[najo]

I have found memories of necropotence decks back then...

I'm not currently playing magic, I tend to delve into pretty heavily when I do and with two kids, I don't tend to have as much gaming time as I used to. Warhammer gets most of my attention. Although I'm really impressed with the recent few cycles of magic, really great design work every year it seems.

My last deck I played serious was a ghost dad variant. Loved that deck.

 

[najo]

Can't edit again...

Btw, Legacy doesn't use restricted list from vintage (type 1). So you don't need P9.

I was going to say, I should draft more. But I tend to get pulled back into standard tournaments then

 

[The Sun King]

Meant Vintage of course nor Legacy Btw. seems that I'll get time for your other challenges unless other people start posting Najo

 

[najo]

Woot! Sunny's challenge FTW!

Side note, Most places allow proxies for vintage tournaments. There's not enough of the old restricted list cards available for players to use and of course prices are through the roof.

 

[Vipoid]

I'm not currently playing magic, I tend to delve into pretty heavily when I do and with two kids, I don't tend to have as much gaming time as I used to. Warhammer gets most of my attention. Although I'm really impressed with the recent few cycles of magic, really great design work every year it seems.

My friends and I got back into magic a while ago, but we've now stopped again in favour of Warhammer and D&D.

Magic does have some interesting sets at the moment, although I think the current pre-made decks are absolute crap.

 

[Mikael.K]

Hey Sunny, got a challenge for you! And it involves the swedish comp pack. Latest beta (1.7.0) can be found HERE. The challenge is to make a list that comps 13 at the lowest and includes double engines. Other than that you have free hands, make it as competitive as you can :devil2:.

 

[Johnny-Crass]

All my lists comp a 6.... We hates it