Sunny's challenge

[The Sun King]

Okay the big problems I ran into making this list:
1. No points for a level 4 wizard which means I'll get pounded in the magic phase. I've tried to remedy this by making the army fast.
2. What core to take when the General is off on his zombie dragon? Decided I wanted to go the Razor Vamp route to get some fighting core. Unfotunately there wasn't points for Dual Engines which is pretty important in this list.
3. Only 1 Invocation and he's flying around killing stuff, so no raising really in this army.
4. Going the Razor Vamp route I need a General close by, but since the VL is on ZD he gets IP 18" so it's all about keeping the core in range.
5. Not enough Lord points to kit the VL as I wanted, so he doesn't have Heavy Armor which might be a problem.

LORD
Vampire Lord: Charmed Shield, Sword of Anti-Heros, Talisman of Preservation, Red Fury, Quickblood, Zombie Dragon, Level 1 LoV

HEROES
Vampire: Sword of Swift Slaying, Enchanted Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Red Fury, Level 2 Shadow, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Red Fury, Dragonhelm, Sword of Striking, Dispel Scroll, Shield, Heavy Armour, Level 2 Shadow

CORE
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
48 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness

SPECIAL
6 Vargheists: Vargoyle
6 Vargheists: Vargoyle
1 Spirit Host
1 Spirit Host

Total Army Points: 2497pts

 

[Melle]

Also a Nice list. gave the challenge to J-C too, it's really fun to see how different you went with it.
Thanks
there should be one more restriction though, razor is ruled as were before, in sweden, so okkams don't do anything for vc in my meta, how would you change it, according to this?



my own looks like this, I too took the fast route, with big guys.
my ZD list

 

[Johnny-Crass]

I might run mine. It is cool

 

[Xivigg]

Two quick challenge : 2500 points

1. As many chariot as possible, at least one of each types.

2. As many ethereal as possible, no flyer.

 

[The Sun King]

Is that two different challenges or one challenge with two restrictions?

 

[The Sun King]

Assuming that it's one challenge I made this list, 5 chariots and some Ethereal dudes - here you go!:

LORD
Vampire Lord: Aura of Dark Majesty, Beguile, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Red Fury, Sword of Swift Slaying, Coven Throne, Heavy Armour, Level 1 LoV

HEROES
Vampire: Red Fury, Sword of Anti-Heros, Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Red Fury, Dispel Scroll, Sword of Battle, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Shield, Heavy Armour

CORE
37 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
45 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears

SPECIAL
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Corpse Cart
Corpse Cart: Balefire

RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine
Total Army Points: 2496pts

Okay so it's basicly Razortons with some CC's and a Coven Throne. Don't bring this list against a gun line.

 

[meowser]

Cmon that's totally not maxed out!

You can fit 2 thrones, 4 carts, 2 coaches and an engine at 2500!

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Cmon that's totally not maxed out!

You can fit 2 thrones, 4 carts, 2 coaches and an engine at 2500!

Please
https://www.vampirecounts.net/Thread-They-See-my-Rollin-2500-Beastmen

 

[The Sun King]

Okay if it's all just fun and games I can make a more fucked up list with plenty of chariots, but it wont be playable

 

[The Sun King]

I present to you the most chariots deployable in VC 2500 army:

LORD
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Aura of Dark Majesty, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Coven Throne, Heavy Armour

HERO
Vampire: Enchanted Shield, Seed of Rebirth, Aura of Dark Majesty, Sword of Anti-Heros, Coven Throne, Heavy Armour

CORE
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
6 Dire Wolves
6 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
Corpse Cart
Corpse Cart
Corpse Cart

RARE
Mortis Engine
Black Coach
Black Coach

Total Army Points: 2496pts


This is lunacy...

 

[The Sun King]

Oh and yeah, brace yourselves for Ethereal Spam! I thought it would be fun to have an Ethereal Lord so I brought Kemmler along just for the heck of it, I hope you enjoy:

LORDS
Heinrich Kemmler
Master Necromancer: Dispel Scroll, Black Periapt, Level 4 Wizard Death

HEROES
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee

CORE
41 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
20 Zombies
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Spirit Host

RARE
10 Cairn Wraiths: Tomb Banshee

Total Army Points: 2500pts


I can't even begin to describe how fun this army would be to play with. So many drops and woe to the enemy if they don't bring magic weapons and after their wizards get sniped some serious poo poo will hit the fans!

 

[Drakhaol Von Carstein]

This is an army I would suggest taking some skellies for. Kemmler's master of the dead and a banshee wall in a unit of skellies with spears, you could even go 7 wide to get more swings in. Also might want to see if you could get in the Cursed book for another chance for doom and darkness.

 

[The Sun King]

No reason to take Skellies without Razor Vamps

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Thata boy Sunny thata boy!

 

[The Sun King]

Haha Johnny, actually I think I've been one of the strongest opponents of EVER using Skellies(until you made your Razorton list) on this forum with all my stupid mathhammering

 

[Nagashizzar]

Hi Nagashizzar, thanks for the concern - yeah been a bad week of migraines... but I hope the worst of it is over now. Okay so I've made this list for you:

LORDS
VL: Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Ogre Blade, RF, QB, Heavy Armour, Level 1 LoV
Master Necromancer: DS, Level 4 Death

HEROES:
Vampire: Aura of Dark Majesty, Fear Incarnate, ES, Sword of Swift Slaying
Banshee
Banshee

CORE:
40 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Screaming Banner
40 Skeleton Warriors: FC (If you can then give these guys spears as stand in)
5 DW
5 DW
20 Zombies

SPECIAL:
30 Grave Guard: FC, Banner of the Barrows, GWs

RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine

Total Army Points: 2496pts


Okay so here's the deal: This army is basicly an LD debuff army with 4 screams and some Fear Bombing. I had a really hard time with your core since you didn't have any Ghouls(which would have been nasty together with the 2 ME's) so instead I settled for Skellies. The Master Necromancer should get Doom and Darkness and bomb the enemy while your Vamps kills in abundance. Put the Baby Vamp with the Spearletons and the Master Necromancer goes into the Zed bunker. The VL can go where you want him to support and destroy. The 2 ME's is the centre of the army buffing your forces and screaming together with your banshees. The Spearletons should be fielded in horde while the Swordletons should be fielded 5 wide for anvil effect.

Rule number one was Lore of the Vampire only :silent::tongue:

 

[The Sun King]

Haha, well sorry bout' that apparently the migraine wasn't all gone Just give the MN LoV and it'll be fine

 

[Bounce]

What would you do with the following, (roughly the models i own)
2400 points.
Any characters but they have to be on foot.
Infinite numbers of zombies
Ten dire wolves
35 Grave Guard with hand weapons and shields
2 Spirit Hosts
2 Fell Bats
6 vargheists
5 hexwraiths
Ten wraiths
Ten banshees

I know there is not a lot of room to maneuver.

 

[Wolf Child]

Hi Sun King,could you try this? 1000 points,no named or special characers,no unit to number more than 30 models at start of game,this list to be used in a 6 game tournament playing each of the 6 scenarios from rule book.

 

[The Sun King]

Nice challenges guys! I'm currently at my in-laws and I'm travelling back soon but it might take a couple of days for me to get the time, but when I do I'll get right on it.

If both of you could tell me something of your meta(what opponents do you expect) I can tailor the lists better

 

[Bounce]

I play a lot of tournaments so meta is just about anything but usually with some comp so lists are tough but reasonable.

 

[Wolf Child]

Hi again Sun King,I,m trying to build a hard combat list within the tournament restrictions I outlined,I will be facing mainly optimised ogre lists played by experienced players,rather than go magic heavy I would like to meet the usual ogre bus with somthing that can fight back! Also the blood and glory scenario means I will need a couple of banners,I'm not sure that Vampires have much chance at this point level vs ogres.

 

[Bullhax]

Hi sunny!

I have a "small" challenge for you! I haven't read ALL the challenges so far but almost, so hope this one hasn't been posted yet:

Only naked characters, and no SC's, you may take banners even on a BSB (if you want to further challenge yourself leave the GK home too as it would be an obvious choice ;D)

Can't wait to see what you come up with!

 

[The Sun King]

Nice with all the activity in this thread, keep it coming guys - really hope I can spark some ideas

Bounce's List
I hope this list can help you champ! I've tried to make the most consistent list with what you've got and I definitely think it's playable although it is quite gimmicky The biggest problem I encountered while making this list was the lack of Ghouls which means that I had to fill core with Zombs... which in turn means that there is ALOT of Zombs in this list, and that is not really competetive, so my advice would be for you to get 40 Ghouls, that way you can have some useful fighting unit in your core.

LORD
Strigoi Ghoul King: Red Fury, Dragonbane Gem, Sword of Bloodshed, Dispel Scroll
Master Necromancer: Level 4 Wizard Lore of Death

HEROES
Vampire: Aura of Dark Majesty, Enchanted Shield, Luckstone, Sword of Anti-Heros, Heavy Armour, Level 1 LoV
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee

CORE
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
40 Zombies: Standard
40 Zombies: Standard
40 Zombies: Standard
51 Zombies: Standard

SPECIAL
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle
5 Hexwraiths
1 Spirit Host
1 Spirit Host
Total Army Points: 2398pts

The idea here is that you have alot of screams, some LD debuff(vamp and MN with lore of Death) while your SGK and Vamp can blend infantry. The list is quite flexible since you can either roam free with your Banshees or make an ethereal wall for one of your Zombie units. Also the SH, HW and Vargs make sure that you wont get out deployed or outmanuevered.


Wolf Child's List
Hi man, hope I'm not too late for you to use this list in your tourny, if you do use it - please let me know who it went! I focused on the fact that you would be facing ogres.

LORD
Master Necromancer: Talisman of Preservation, Level 4 Wizard LoV

CORE
21 Zombies: Standard
20 Zombies: Standard
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
7 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter

RARE
1 Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 999pts

The idea is that your MN keeps your army alive(this is quite effective on 1k level since every single wound raised percentage wise is three times more worth when compared with 3k lists for instance). I decided that I wanted to go with CH as the main fighting force since they are very hard to kill and you can deny many point that way, especially with a level 4 LoV caster to buff and raise wounds on them. The Zombs are meant to have standards(for Blood and Glory) and as a bunker for the MN while the DW are extra drops, deployment denial and redirectors to get the matchups that you want. The TG is just utterly nasty against the OK since they have low LD and no real counter on 1k. Hope this army will do you well!



Bullhax' List
Okay this was fun, I didn't dare to not bring a SGK as you suggested but I think this list turned out real nice. Since I play with Dual Engines in my current list I figured that in order to protect all the naked characters the engines would do nicely! That also became the theme of the list.

LORDS
Strigoi Ghoul King
Master Necromancer: Level 4 Wizard Lore of Death

HEROES
Necromancer: Level 1 LoV
Necromancer: Level 1 LoV

CORE
41 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
20 Zombies: Standard
20 Zombies: Standard
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
11 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
5 Hexwraiths
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle

RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine: Blasphemous Tome
Total Army Points: 2496pts

Okay so the idea here is having your Ghoul horde and CH block as the main battle line, behind them or between them we have the two ME's. The two Zombs bunkers is close behind the main battle line so the baby necros can spam IoN on 3+ with one die(due to Blasphemous tome). The HW, Vargs and SH take up the flanks together with the DW. I actually think this list is pretty strong considering the restrictions.

 

[Count Lasombra]

OK Sunny,here's a challenge.
2400 pts.
1.MSU(small not minimum)
2.Making use of 'smoke and mirrors'.
3.Competitive.