The return of the Black Coach

[Alabaster427]

I don't understand how the MR works with the BC. It already has a 4++ and MR doesn't stack with a generic Ward Save, but counts as a ward save. So what's the point of gaining 2 MR?

 

[Pirate Robot Ninja of Death]

I don't understand how the MR works with the BC. It already has a 4++ and MR doesn't stack with a generic Ward Save, but counts as a ward save. So what's the point of gaining 2 MR?

Actually, it DOES stack. MR(2) with a 4++ stacks to a 2++ against spells.

 

[Alabaster427]

Actually, it DOES stack. MR(2) with a 4++ stacks to a 2++ against spells.

So does that mean that a Vamp with ToP is in a unit with a Necromancer that has Obsidian Lodestone has a ward save against magic of 1++? Or does have to be "gains +3" rather than MR(3)?

 

[najo]

I don't understand what you mean by gains +3, but saves always fail on a 1 and ward saves can't be greater than 2+ anyways.

 

[Alabaster427]

I don't understand what you mean by gains +3, but saves always fail on a 1 and ward saves can't be greater than 2+ anyways.

On the Black Coach, for Evocation of Death (#4 I think) I think it says "it gains +2 MR" rather than "has MR(2)." Normally, MR doesn't stack with a ward save (unless it's been FAQ'd and I haven't seen it), so I am asking if the difference in wording is what gives the BC the 2++ rather than choosing between a 4++ and 5++, the latter of which would make the 4th upgrade useless.

 

[najo]

On the Black Coach, for Evocation of Death (#4 I think) I think it says "it gains +2 MR" rather than "has MR(2)." Normally, MR doesn't stack with a ward save (unless it's been FAQ'd and I haven't seen it), so I am asking if the difference in wording is what gives the BC the 2++ rather than choosing between a 4++ and 5++, the latter of which would make the 4th upgrade useless.

pg. 72 BRB " A model with Magic Resistance has a bonus to its ward saves when saving against damage caused by spells."

 

[Alabaster427]

Thanks. I'll have to check on it later. the one I read said that MR and WS didn't stack. I'll post it tomorrow.

 

[TheTrans]

I've been using the 'ghulf recently and found I works great as an anvil for a bloodknight flank hammer.

It can take hits pretty well and can usually draw a combat with normal troops. Then you hit with bloodknights on a flank...or even the front and it quickly becomes a murderfest...

 

[The Sun King]

The only reason the coach sees play now is that opponents' MSU lists mitigates the coach's bad mechanic: being unstable but unable to generate wounds in prolonged combat. It is still a horrible unit IMO, but at least now it sees it's way into tailored lists. I wouldn't pick it in an all comers unless it cost 130 pts.