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Well, my warband is far too small and my powers are not strong enough to defeat the council. However, the Gods did send me a vision that told me there was a powerful thing to kill before I could truly begin my rise to glory. Perhaps a short, unstable alliance with the Council to defeat Nagash?
 
Oh, I plan on it. But I'm sure Nagash is more of a threat right now, and its not like the alliance will be all hugs and kisses for the short time it is in effect.
 
No threat to Chaos as a whole maybe, but to me and my rise to glory, he probably is. I'm only a champion, for now atleast.
 
Hey, I'm not so sure of that. Whilst Nagash poses no real theat to them and their realm, their stake in this world could easily be threatened by Nagash. Afterall, if everyone but Nagash is turned into a mindless undead peon, there would be noone to worship them.
 
goulking88 said:
Nagash is no threat to Chaos the Dark Gods are probably splitting their guts laughing at him.

Hey, I'm not so sure of that. Whilst Nagash poses no real theat to them and their realm, their stake in this world could easily be threatened by Nagash. Afterall, if everyone but Nagash is turned into a mindless undead peon, there would be noone to worship them.

I'm pretty sure this is true, if all the worshippers of chaos are turned into mindless undead the gods will no longer have anyone to work through.
Indeed Nagash's plan may be the only way to cease chaos.

So join nagash now :D
 
I'm pretty sure this is true, if all the worshippers of chaos are turned into mindless undead the gods will no longer have anyone to work through.
Indeed Nagash's plan may be the only way to cease chaos.

So join nagash now :D

Not sure that defeating Chaos is Nagash's primary intention but if it is then doesn't that make him sort of the good guy.... heresy I know.
 
knightofni said:
I'm pretty sure this is true, if all the worshippers of chaos are turned into mindless undead the gods will no longer have anyone to work through.
Indeed Nagash's plan may be the only way to cease chaos.

So join nagash now :D

Not sure that defeating Chaos is Nagash's primary intention but if it is then doesn't that make him sort of the good guy.... heresy I know.

Maybe not a primary intention but it sure is a pretty nice side affect!
 
How would an undead Nagash world vs Nurgle pan out ... Nurgle is the chaos god of death and decay so a world of dead stuff would please him quite alot
 
My own theory (as I've already written in chapter 42) is that Nagash's attack on the world would spawn enough emotional energy to swell the Chaos Gods with power. That would then trigger the Lizardmen into action to stop both Chaos and Nagash (since the Undead are also not a part of the Old Ones' plan), resulting in the end of the Warhammer world as we know it. :vampire2:

Doom, Doom, Doom!
 
MasterSpark said:
My own theory (as I've already written in chapter 42) is that Nagash's attack on the world would spawn enough emotional energy to swell the Chaos Gods with power. That would then trigger the Lizardmen into action to stop both Chaos and Nagash (since the Undead are also not a part of the Old Ones' plan), resulting in the end of the Warhammer world as we know it. :vampire2:

Doom, Doom, Doom!

My own theory is that Nagash would indeed trigger emotional energy but I think it would more burn them out and without a substantial force to feed on after that they would cease to exist.

But that all aside...

If Nagash used his spell of undeath on everyone wouldn't that kill the Lizardmen?
And if they did survive how would they fair against a massive army of undead? I couldn't see them being victorious.
 
Get_of_W said:
If Nagash used his spell of undeath on everyone wouldn't that kill the Lizardmen?
And if they did survive how would they fair against a massive army of undead? I couldn't see them being victorious.

Ah but the magiks of the Slann would surely be able to disrupt the control over the undead .. just like that empire guy did with the great spell of unbinding (or something).

Would be fun to watch from a neutral point of view though since neither side would back down
 
With Nagash at his full strength he is pretty much a god, so I don't think even the Slaan's that are left now would have the strength to stop him. That's why I think Nagash is one of the biggest threats to the warhammer world. Pretty much all the other "god" level characters are gone for good, whilst Nagash is still around, and if he manages to get get his claw and crown back, could actually reach those levels again. If he did there is pretty much nothing in the warhammer world that would be strong enough to stop him. Even the first time round it took:

-Him basically being comotose
-Having expended all his magical energy having risen an entire civilisation
-Being faced by one of the mightest human warriors to have existed (Alcadizzar - sp?)
-Who was armed with the deadlist weapon in existence (Fellblade)
-Who was magically protected by the Council of 13, some of who died in the process.

So long story short, had Nagash not being basically in a coma nothing would hve stopped him. Hell, even the second time round when he was well under half (possibly more) of his previous strength, he still managed to wound Sigmar and only just got beaten.

Anyway - I have replied GoW.

Oh and Voltaire........I think your post might have been too late. The battle has been over for a bit now?
 
Disciple of Nagash said:
With Nagash at his full strength he is pretty much a god, so I don't think even the Slaan's that are left now would have the strength to stop him. That's why I think Nagash is one of the biggest threats to the warhammer world. Pretty much all the other "god" level characters are gone for good, whilst Nagash is still around, and if he manages to get get his claw and crown back, could actually reach those levels again. If he did there is pretty much nothing in the warhammer world that would be strong enough to stop him. Even the first time round it took:

-Him basically being comotose
-Having expended all his magical energy having risen an entire civilisation
-Being faced by one of the mightest human warriors to have existed (Alcadizzar - sp?)
-Who was armed with the deadlist weapon in existence (Fellblade)
-Who was magically protected by the Council of 13, some of who died in the process.

So long story short, had Nagash not being basically in a coma nothing would hve stopped him. Hell, even the second time round when he was well under half (possibly more) of his previous strength, he still managed to wound Sigmar and only just got beaten.

All that doesn't really bode well for the Vampire Council then does it. Since we don't have Sigmar or Alca-whatshisface nor fellblade, your gonna have to come up with some seriously powerful stuff to kill (properly) this Nagash.
 
Knightofni - You need to bear in mind that Nagash has not yet recovered his full power yet. He has the Crown and Claw, however the Council's knowledge of this has forced him to act faster than anticipated before he has fully rejuvenated. Good thing as well or the Council probably wouldn't stand a chance.

GoW - I will check my PM's again. Brilliant last post by the way. Superbly written and it conveys V'azrin's feelings well.
 
Sweeney Todd said:
So Lesa can has medevac?

Not clear but I think he means that a) she is still alive & b) she can be rescued.

@ DoN. I know that Nagash isnt as powerful as he once was but realistically he's as powerful as he can get ... in terms of opposition. I mean that once the Council is removed (and he certainly has enough power to achieve this... barring some true heroics) then the Old world is effectively lost because the strength of the elves and the dwarves has diminished too much to provide much resistance and humans are always on the brink of extinction anyway.

So Nagash isnt going to get any more meaningful power without destroying his enemies first so He's as nasty as he's going to get.

On another subject, I'm posting later and sending Saul in the direction of Jason, Peter, Ashlotte etc. I figured it would be the best way to integrate with the council so if somebody could acknowledge his presence it would be very helpful.. :)
 

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