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Sorry but I disagree.. Saul only attacked Jason because Jason started the fight... he only attached the Duke because the Duke head-butted him. You have to understand that Saul is in the middle of a bunch of strangers and therefore is going to be on edge but that doesn't excuse everybody treating him with contempt and trying to kill him .. after all the Duke did state that there had been enough blood shed tonight and then he goes an head butts Saul because he thinks he's being rude.. how would expect someone to react when they find themselves in the middle of a war that isnt theirs and then being attacked when they try to find answers.
Your all try to find reasons to attack Saul and that isn't fair especially after you reason that there isn't a need for fighting. You cannot expect a character of any age or any skill level to back down from an unprovoked attack just because his opponent has a reputation. And I even stated in the previous post that I wanted no further hostilities and I wasn't seeking to provoke anyone and I still get attacked.. I don't see how I can write up a constant battle against more than one character when actually my character is seeking to end hostilities having realised he's gone too far.
Rant over.... sorry about that really I am, I just feel I'm being picked on a little.
And DoN.. you might want to delete my last 'in-character' post if you can.. you posted whilst I was writing and it was a post written in anger at you rather than to progress the story...
Your all try to find reasons to attack Saul and that isn't fair especially after you reason that there isn't a need for fighting. You cannot expect a character of any age or any skill level to back down from an unprovoked attack just because his opponent has a reputation. And I even stated in the previous post that I wanted no further hostilities and I wasn't seeking to provoke anyone and I still get attacked.. I don't see how I can write up a constant battle against more than one character when actually my character is seeking to end hostilities having realised he's gone too far.
Rant over.... sorry about that really I am, I just feel I'm being picked on a little.
And DoN.. you might want to delete my last 'in-character' post if you can.. you posted whilst I was writing and it was a post written in anger at you rather than to progress the story...
Count Erick
Wight King
Why's that? Comparing him to Muller's stats he doesn't seem overly intimidating. It would be a trade off of Weapon Skill and Technique strength on the Dukes side, and Raw Strength and Toughness on Mullers, as well as Agility, and he doesn't have any magical equipment/abilities I need worry about. Am I missing something?
Count Erick said:
Did you miss the Duke's lightsaber? Or god-like laser beam eyes? Or his position as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom?
Count Erick
Wight King
Kaladas Harkon
Wight King
Pedantry and randomness is not funny? News to me.
On a side note I am introducing Serpino in a sub-plot me and GoW are working on.
On a side note I am introducing Serpino in a sub-plot me and GoW are working on.
Count Erick
Wight King
It can be, it just has to be executed well.
Thank god.
These werewolf corpses keep wanting to get up and walk around. Can I burn them now?
Stats are just a guideline. Simon is a prodigy of the von Carstein line who has fed off his own kind he is the youngest vampire of any significance within the family and the council. Mircea and Karl are older and yet look to Simon to lead the entire family. Not to mention he effectively outsmarted Mannfred and manipulated the council for his own ends. Instead of having just one talent like incredible magical ability or strength or fighting ability he has all of them in part if not full. He uses magic and his fighting abilities together. His sword is designed to kill undead and demons and he is the greatest swordsman in his family even if he's lacking fighting ability in other areas. He currently wears the Carstein ring making him almost invulnerable. He is arrogant and ruthless and knows how to get in to peoples heads and attack them mentally and finally Founders Priviledge.
Count Erick said:
Yeah, I probably should have worked on that better.
Count Erick said:Thank god.
No, it's best to wait for goW to post before I move him along, be patient.
Count Erick
Wight King
Yes stats are guidelines, but from looking over them, I don't see why Muller at least couldn't give the Duke a good fight.
Kaladas Harkon
Wight King
Meaning, the characters of people who started the RP, being Drakki, Gree, Simon, Disciple, Vekarin, GoW, and some others who I can't remember, are intrinsically more powerful (though generally not by that much) than a similar character made later on.
I did not start at the RP, I would have if I had been active back then and I recived an invitation back then, but I was away on 40n stuff for a while.
So you can consider me an ''honorary'' founder.
So you can consider me an ''honorary'' founder.
Count Erick
Wight King
That seems to be.....oh, whats the word I'm looking for.....oh yes, bullshit.
As if the people with the most powerful characters need more of an advantage.
knightofni said:
It seems that we are going to disagree then. Looking at these posts you asked for a fight from Jason which is what you got. He of course had to think of a reason to fight you.
Muller did not attack you, only tried to stop the fight so he doesn't count.
The Duke did not openly start a fight, nor approach you. He warned you about your actions and tone. You decided in-character to ignore that, approach a Blood Dragon and shout in his face. That line have a thing about honour etc, and I doubt any of their line would have just sat their whilst you did that.
You were not being picked on, you got a fight you asked for, and another because of the actions of your character.
Finally I do not expect any member to post in anger at another player. If you have an issue make sure it is sorted before you post. This RP has being going a long time, and I will not have it spoilt by out of place posts. In future if you are unhappy with myself or anyone else make sure it is cleared up before you post.
I have deleted your post as per your request.
Count Erick said:
Muller is very powerful, hence the wounded state the Duke is in. So yes they would give a good fight. However I take the term "take down a peg or two", to mean the Duke is beaten soundly at something he is skilled in. In that case I don't think Muller has the skill to do that, though as you say, it would be close.
Kaladas Harkon said:
This is true. Those who stay in the TVC do gain marginally more powerful characters, partially in recognition of the long-term effort they put, partially to show their characters growth during the story. It will be the same in the sequel, which is why I am being strict with the starting power levels, to allow room for growth.
Count Erick said:It can be, it just has to be executed well.
Thank god.
Count Erick said:That seems to be.....oh, whats the word I'm looking for.....oh yes, bullshit.
As if the people with the most powerful characters need more of an advantage.
Calm the tone please Erick. If you actually have an issue with something then PM. As I explained in my previous post, those who started the TVC have grown slightly in power level, and I mean slightly. Muller came in and gave the Duke a good walloping in the chapter so I don't see how you can moan about existing characters being too strong. As it is everyone has just been reviewed.
Count Erick
Wight King
I'm not moaning about the Duke, I just don't like the concept of 'Founder's Privilege'. It smacks of favoritism and making the strong get stronger, which doesn't make it a good experience for other people not lucky enough to fall into the category of 'Founder'.
Founder's priviledge does not exist in the way you think it does. It is not favouritism. It is simply that the long term characters get slightly stronger and more experience as the story goes on. It would be expected in an other story / RP / game, so why not this one.
For example, V'azrin was not actually a founding character. GoW didn't join until quite a few chapters in. However as his character has stuck around since then, he has grown.
For example, V'azrin was not actually a founding character. GoW didn't join until quite a few chapters in. However as his character has stuck around since then, he has grown.
Count Erick has a point.. even if he expressed it a little too strongly. No character should be untouchable and no character is essentially immune to attacks from others; if this were the case then there'd be no point in any others joining the TVC. Yes some characters are inevitably strongly, faster, better magicians or wateva but all vampires have weaknesses that can be exploited by those less powerful than themselves ... more powerful characters are inevitable but weaker ones should be allow to step up to take them
You are aware that Founders Priviledge is just a joke right. As none of the founding members are incredibly overpowered nor have any of us used that it as an excuse. Thats why I put a grinning face next to the statement to show I wasn't being serious in an attempt to lighten the mood.
How much time have you put into planning, running and playing this RP, Erick?
I'm pretty sure the the assumption that 'my character is the best because I think he's awesome' is also bullshit. Is that telling the story? The powers of all of the older characters have been established and embellished upon for the... what, two years now of this roleplay? Other eople have lives too, and the people who want to devote a great deal of time and energy to this story obviously get better parts. It's like saying that the main character in a story should lose in the end simply because he's not as cool as mister minor character #47.
Knightofni - You sound like me on my first day.... ahh, good times.
Please take the following as constructive critisism and in no way an insult, because I had to learn this lesson the hard way: 'Playing my character' is no excuse to make your character an asshole. In TVC, everyone else is also playing their characters who will not react well to an asshole. Starting fights will not get you ingratiated into TVC, instead, it will make everyone fight you. That's why you get picked on early on (I had the entire council on me at one time too, and trust me, I felt the same). Put yourself in your character's shoes - you got pulled into a war you didn't want, but when you think about it, you are in the presence of an elite cadre of the most powerful vampire lords in all existence. Be a little awestruck, maybe self-protective, at least it won't make people want to fight you.
Hope that helps.
I'm pretty sure the the assumption that 'my character is the best because I think he's awesome' is also bullshit. Is that telling the story? The powers of all of the older characters have been established and embellished upon for the... what, two years now of this roleplay? Other eople have lives too, and the people who want to devote a great deal of time and energy to this story obviously get better parts. It's like saying that the main character in a story should lose in the end simply because he's not as cool as mister minor character #47.
Knightofni - You sound like me on my first day.... ahh, good times.
Please take the following as constructive critisism and in no way an insult, because I had to learn this lesson the hard way: 'Playing my character' is no excuse to make your character an asshole. In TVC, everyone else is also playing their characters who will not react well to an asshole. Starting fights will not get you ingratiated into TVC, instead, it will make everyone fight you. That's why you get picked on early on (I had the entire council on me at one time too, and trust me, I felt the same). Put yourself in your character's shoes - you got pulled into a war you didn't want, but when you think about it, you are in the presence of an elite cadre of the most powerful vampire lords in all existence. Be a little awestruck, maybe self-protective, at least it won't make people want to fight you.
Hope that helps.
Vekarin the Dark Bladed said:Please take the following as constructive critisism and in no way an insult, because I had to learn this lesson the hard way: 'Playing my character' is no excuse to make your character an asshole. In TVC, everyone else is also playing their characters who will not react well to an asshole. Starting fights will not get you ingratiated into TVC, instead, it will make everyone fight you. That's why you get picked on early on (I had the entire council on me at one time too, and trust me, I felt the same). Put yourself in your character's shoes - you got pulled into a war you didn't want, but when you think about it, you are in the presence of an elite cadre of the most powerful vampire lords in all existence. Be a little awestruck, maybe self-protective, at least it won't make people want to fight you.
Hope that helps.
Yeah, I've had to walk a fine line with Mircea's own arrogance and contempt for others. It's one thing to keep him in character and another to seperate that from who you really are. The trick is don't push too deeply into actual fights and act within reason.
Founding characters who have been killed:
Simon
Milosh
Lesa
Vekarin
V'azrin
Drakki (offscreen)
Simon
Milosh
Lesa
Vekarin
V'azrin
Drakki (offscreen)