Vampire Counts Rumours

[User Deleted by Request]

At least you got the names of the banners right.
Edited mine, they're correct now.

Another idea is to march them along with an infantry regiment, ready to shoot off from their flank when needed. A bit slow, but you can always Danse them and if you make it a Ghoul regiment you could have a Vampire with Ghoulkin in it. And as Vlad said, you can raise the ones you loose. Comes in handy if you have a Vampire in the unit, level 1 is fine for raising your dead mates falling around you.

 

[Synthesis]

The problem you'd have with having both banners in one unit, not to mention the BSB, is that it'll become a huge case of 'all eggs in one basket' .... sure it'll get most places unscathed, but it can't be everywhere at once/can be avoided and with so many points wrapped up in one unit the rest of the army is likely to be rather tiny (much like a 2nd Gen. Slaan + TG unit).

 

[User Deleted by Request]

Well, we have zombies! Almost like Skaven Slaves..
Still, all eggs-on-one-Blood-Knight is a bit risky, but could very well work. Especially in tournaments, the Dark Elf list that usually wins have like.. 4 units including a Dragon with a tooled-up Lord on it.

EDIT: Yay, 150 posts! Victory dance with the dead!

 

[VladtheLad]

My guess is that 5 KotBK with FC, no champ, Banner of the Blood Keep and Wight Lord BSB on barded horse, shield, heavy armor, lance and Drakenhoff Banner will cost slightly more than 650 points.

I agree its a huge point sink, and thought I havent tested it in the battlefield it prolly isn't worth it...(could be hugely wrong thought, we wait and see)

 

[N.I.B]

Folks, keep the tactics in tactics threads, this is the place for rumour discussions. Seeing the book is (almost) out, this thread has soon run it's course.

 

[thewrathchilde]

A lot of the items in the rumours seem similar to previous powers or have similar names. For the following items that are named after items/powers in the 6th Ed book did the points cost change or stay the same:
1. Infinite Hatred
2. Wristbands of Black Gold
3. Dark Acolyte (or did this just replace Nehekhara's Noble Blood in name and pt cost)
4. Flayed Hauberk
5. Banner of the Barrows
6. Red Fury
7. Forbidden Lore

For the ones that stayed the same a simple "same" would suffice; for the ones that changed just a "change/increased/decreased" without getting into specifics on costs.

thanks,

WC

 

[Swoop]

Hello,

I've been lurking for a while and thought I'd finally add something. I went to my local GW store last night and spent about 20 mins looking at the book.

One thing that has not been stated here that I've seen, but seems to have been hinted at is that blood knights can have a magic banner the value of 3 war banners. I didn't notice the option for magic weapons but unit size is 4 (or maybe 5) to 20.

Also, BSB option states if the BSB takes a magical banner he cannot take any magic items but does not exclude bloodline powers. Therefore thrall BSB can use equipment purchased with bloodline points.

Thralls cost the same amount as a empire canon and come with level 1 base. There is no option for upgrade to level 2 except through the bloodline power.

Zombies can take command except champion but ghouls can only take a ghast.

Black coach abilities are cumalitive so first 6 rolled gives you scythed wheels and every 6 after that moves up the scale. You don't roll for abilities, you get them in a set order. It's a lot like flagellants.

Swoop!

 

[The Dark Lord Mr Fluffy]

@thewrathchilde
Rumour round up has all the answers:
Clicky

 

[thewrathchilde]

@DLMF-

I guess I must be missing something; I looked at the rumour round up and didn't see anything that addressed whether items with the same name/effect changed in cost......

WC

 

[Trentonator]

well i gave my Blood knight the dreadlance in my test battle, it was amazing!

 

[Grish]

I would think Infinite Hatred would do almost the same job for 25 pts; although I would debate the Accursed Armour with the DreadLance as it makes WS to hit irrelevant. (Can you say Annoyance of Netlings?)

 

[thewrathchilde]

Is "dreadknight" the only way for a Vampire Count/Vampire to get heavy armor and/or a shield?

Does the Helm of Commandment increase armor save like most helms or just give the WS ability?

thanks,

WC

 

[Synthesis]

Erm, it's a 25 point limit for the Kastellan and the lance is far beyond that ... so how'd you pull that one off?

 

[N.I.B]

thewrathchilde, you can find your answers in the rumour roundup. Everyone should read it thouroughly before posting rumour questions.

 

[Master Vampire]

@DLMF-

I guess I must be missing something; I looked at the rumour round up and didn't see anything that addressed whether items with the same name/effect changed in cost......

WC

That's because it's not allowed to post point costs. As to whether they are more expensive than previous I do not know - maybe someone could post that (I think it's not posted before though).

 

[thewrathchilde]

thewrathchilde, you can find your answers in the rumour roundup. Everyone should read it thouroughly before posting rumour questions.

I did read the rumour round-up; several times to make certain I didn't miss anything. However, the rumour round-up didn't address any mundane equipment options (if there are any) for the Vampires. Perhaps I didn't word my questions as clearly as I could have. Instead I should have said:

Are there any mundane equipment options for Vampires that will allow them to purchase heavy armor or a shield without spending points on either Dread Knight or Avatar of Death?

The reason I ask is Avatar of Death seems a waste of points to me if you are going to equip a Vampire with magic armor and a magic weapon............at that point you end up spending a lot of points on the bloodline power just to get a shield!

thanks,

WC

 

[Synthesis]

Sadly the only mundane options for vampires are the choice of mount, a handweapon (namely the free one they've got regardless) and the option of upgrading to level 3 for the Count ..... everything else is either magical or bloodline based

 

[Tal Rasha]

Synthesis is correct. There is a slight debate as to whether you could take magic armor if you didn't take Avatar or Dreadknight, however.

 

[Trentonator]

don't mind me, I cheated a lil but my friends knew. And I payed over the price for it

 

[mannfred]

Has anyone seen or heard anything about this supposed Vampire war where the Von Carsteins came out on top?

No specifics, just want confirmation on an earlier rumour I heard (sounds cool).

 

[thewrathchilde]

yet another question if someone will humor ee; and yes N.I.B, I looked in the rumour thread first....

Does the new version of the Wristbands od Black Gold protect the mount as well, or just the character?

thanks,

WC

 

[N.I.B]

It hasn't changed.

 

[Cristov von Carstein]

I read the ARMY BOOK (yes thats right, i thought id bold the word army book, not codex, army book), last saturday. It all looks rarther good, cant wait to get my hands on those new skellies and grave guard. Not too keen on the Blood Knights although they had some pretty fearsome stats. I particulary liked the ice blue scheme that one of the skeletons had in the painting section.

 

[thewrathchilde]

It hasn't changed.

thanks,

WC

 

[Arion]

That question has been asked before, but yea it hasnt changed.