RIP WHFB 2015

[Adam_Barrow]

Good looking out, guys. And Rob, those are shaping up awesome. I guess you need some backstory, though. Part of the reason I went with Skaven for Army #2 is how much converting went into my VC. In Skaven I saw an army i loved 90% straight off the sprue. Having to hack up a $65 kit is very unappealing to me.

 

[Archamedius]

A set of ratling cannon parts are up on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARHAMMER-B...272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9a225978

Incidentally, I have purchased from those guys before, they were always good to me. In case anyone was considering buying that bit set.

 

[El Syf]

I've got the blood of nagash (not) trilogy. Really enjoyed them. Get to know a lot of cool bits from them.

 

[Shareya]

Not sure if this was posted here, but https://www.vampirecounts.net/threads/the-end-of-the-end-times-massive-spoilers.28905/

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Not sure if this was posted here, but https://www.vampirecounts.net/threads/the-end-of-the-end-times-massive-spoilers.28905/

Yeah, um, that sucks. So glad this End Times thingy is not happening at all in my group.

As long as I get some heads-up when it's time to stock up on old models I'll be fine.

 

[najo]

I've got to say, I'm feeling a bit of loss from how far end times went. Reading it made it strike home a bit. I'm excited to see where things go, but it feels like an era just ended. R.I.P. was right.

 

[Adam_Barrow]

As long as I get some heads-up when it's time to stock up on old models I'll be fine.

I've been at it since January. I'm a box of Black Knights away from owning everything I want for Undead Legions. The money I've spent on Skaven the first three months of this year makes me wanna weep.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I've been at it since January. I'm a box of Black Knights away from owning everything I want for Undead Legions. The money I've spent on Skaven the first three months of this year makes me wanna weep.

My problem is that I collect 8 armies (recently sold of one which I regret). I want to have all options for all armies, ideally, but that means I'll have to panic buy A LOT of models. Having just recently moved to a bigger house is not helping either.
What I'm trying to do is buying stuff from armies that are going down the drain first, and only models that are not possible to buy from Mantic and the likes.

 

[Adam_Barrow]

Yikes. Fingers x'd for you, mate.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Haha. Yeah I'm in quite a pickle.

On the other hand I have enough models to pick and choose from at least 6 armies. My dwarfs and my vampires are the only ones lacking in choices.

 

[Zephyr]

I'm in the same boat. I owned so many armies but most were simply themed around sub-factions and never became full-fledged armies. I already sold all my Clan Skryre Skaven figuring that I would never be able to get the army I wanted plus the fact so much of it was unpainted too.

Sold my Wood Elves and now contemplating whether my High Elves will go too as it's such a small army. Just 1K worth of points. I figure a dedicated HE fan would love to own those models.

I'm keeping my VC as they are 'complete' and have invested so much time painting and converting them. With my Dark Elves I was already waiting for the Raging Heroes models so no loss there.


I'm just dumbstruck right now...Fantasy was my very first miniature-game love. That world so full of awesome fluff is truly gone now All I can do is put my fingers in my ears yell loud and hard and act like ET never happened. Thankfully I know plenty enough folks willing to stick with the old lore and ruleset. I will not go without my games.

Just have to wait and see what 9th brings but I think calling it 9th edition is ridiculous now. It's a complete new setting. Rules-wise, heaven knows...I'm willing to give it a try but let me mourn my beloved setting first.:'(

 

[Sception]

I'm trying to wrap up my undead legions. Just need some chariots (already in negotiations), a few more spirit hosts, maybe a second terrorgheist and/or mortis engine, couple boxes of hex wraiths, some horse archers, sphynxes, maybe a couple catapults, maybe some vargheists, maybe some stalkers, a few more skittles & zombags, unit fillers, objective markers, and the rest of the mortarchs. It's a lot, not sure if I'll be able to afford it all before the game goes tits up. Hopefully I'll be able to catch some breaks from people unloading stuff.

 

[Majrenob]

I have been on a TK spending spree, really hope that UL survives the cut. Fortunately my meta has played combined lists, but that may change when Archaon lists start showing up on the table.

 

[Sception]

Actually, the unbound fantasy apocalypse rules frees me up a bit, as I no longer feel obligated to pick up 3000 points worth of core to be able to field everything I have or want in a single game.

 

[Count Matthewzilla]

I dont even know what to say. Wasnt expecting them to go highlander 5 on the setting.

 

[Emicrania]

Just to understand here,I have been on the road for almost 2 months and I don't wanna panic before I get this straight.
All the ET ends up with a big KABOOM and we got left is bubblehammer?
Are lizardmen, Bret and dwarves gone as a faction?
If the rumors are true, is GW gonna change miniatures as a figure every 6 months or completely kind of unit?
T ex: same skeleton warriors but in different shape/armour/whatever or skeleton dogs now, than skeleton lizards with different rules in 6 months?
Are Nagash and all the other dudes ( Glottkin my man! ) gone for good? ( so my "Told ya" dance can start)

 

[Undying Scourge]

Not even that Emicrania, the whole world was completely obliterated by Chaos and everyone died. The end. What a depressing end for a depressing setting. Fitting, really.

 

[Adam_Barrow]

@Emicrania The link Shareya posted up there a bit earlier has people discussing the fluff. All the play by plays are in that thread in the background boards.

 

[Sception]

As for what 9th will look like, who knows? Maybe it will be bubblehammer, with shards of the old world struggling to survive in the warp. Maybe Sigmar will have breathed life into a new world, never ending story style, recreating the old world and its history but with subtle changes that might make a final victory possible this time. Maybe Newhammer will be an entirely new setting unrelated to the old in any way.

Nobody really knows right now, and both the rumors and the speculation are all over the map, but for the most part...

Spoiler

Yes, the End Times end with chaos winning, the polar vortexes join with a new warp rift to tear the world apart and draw all that is, was, or might have been into the warp to be consumed by the laughing gods of chaos. It was the end we were always promised. I'm still kind of impressed that they went through with it. It is very rare that you see any such fantasy setting or story end with the final victory of evil and the dissolution of all things.

 

[Undying Scourge]

Nothing they can do now can save them from this debacle, this disgrace. How can they sell these models and then, not even a year later, shit all over us and say "Oh yeah now Nagash is dead, and so are all those other guys".

 

[Sception]

Same way they could sell us models for Vlad, Konrad, and Isabella, and say "Oh yeah, these guys are already dead"? By trying to make the models, their stories, and the game they're played in awesome? I mean, yeah, they variously succeed and fail on those grounds, but still.

How would your preferred end, 'Nagash kills everything', have been any different on that front? Almost all of the new characters they released in the past year would still be dead, the setting would still be over, and none of the few characters who survived would be taking part in newhammer either way.

 

[Undying Scourge]

The difference would be that they wouldn't really be dead... they'd be undead. They'd still exist, still be alive.

In fact, maybe they wouldn't even be undead, they'd just be alive but living under the most tyrannical, megalomaniacal, and cruel ruler that ever existed. They'd be slaves until the end of time, suffering in eternal anguish under Nagash's unflinching reign. Finally the selfish scum of Warhammer would be made to suffer for their treachery, deceit and arrogance, as Nagash would make them suffer in life and in death for all eternity, a fate far worse than death. That would be a far more satisfying end.

 

[Emicrania]

Honestly I don't Give a 00000
Does not surprise me and would utterly surprise me the 9th edition would start all new,exactly the same with kind of storm of chaos justification.
They needed to sell,as always. And if this was a marketing test, well hell it worked.
I can support,ofc not completely economically or I would need to start to do tricks on the street, this idea of a constant change of fluff.
That would be actually awesome. If they would public every quarter some piece of new fluff about some factions and push out some models.
If they would scale down the game and still have an "apocalypse" version for bigger battle.
If they would get in contact with their passionate buyer and hobbyist.
If they would compete with the market LOWERING the price as any other normal company would do in the face I competition.
If they would get back some good mood when they write fluff as was before.
If they would spend like I don't know, 45 seconds more, to think to justify an alliance between elves that hated each other for millennia.
If they would tryn to do something unique and new and bold and NOT another skirmish game.


If,if,if... In my hometown we say " if,if,if. If my grandpa had 3 balls, he would be a flipper"

 

[Sception]

More or less agree, though I'm not sure they even need to reduce prices of individual models. GW models are already comparably priced to those of their nearest competitors (talking Warmahordes here), while being, imo, of far better quality individually. The price that desperately needs to come down is the buy in price of the game, as it's become a major barrier to new blood, and that kills a game.

There are two ways to do that, keep the game big and make cheaper models (the mantic approach, if you will), or make the game smaller and keep the fancier, more expensive models. GW seems to overwhelmingly prefer the latter, and good on them, but the game needs at least an introductory scale that allows that model to still be affordable by the consumer.

 

[Emicrania]

Honestly I have no problem with scaling down a notch.
I own 3 armies now and I would like to start others.
But I still wanna be able to play big games. So I hope in a fantasy version of the "Apocalypse" rules for 40k
But round bases.
No.
Is not gonna happen.

And I'm not buying this end of the world one bit.
They are still publishing models at insane price, IMHO, and they are hooked and how well this whole ETC scam came out,cash wise.