[Rumour Compilation] Vampire Counts New Release: 14th Jan 2012

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Well I refused to pay for the old ones as they looked horrible, just may your own of of Nid Gargoyle wings and Ghouls.
Then you get 10 for £30.

Just need some new zombie models and most people will be happy, especially if they are still 20 a box.

 

[Aedin]

Fell bats... Would be nice if their stats got better like the Carrion from TK. However, if not then maybe they will be significantly cheaper in points.

 

[count_caliban]

Reaper dire bats. They're 10$ for one but they look perfect, at the moment gw bats are actually cheaper dare I say. I don't have a problem with the current zombies actually, I mean they aren't great looking but they aren't terrible. Not like say black knights where the models have been around since 1998. What are they sixth edition models?

 

[TMS]

I'm probably among the few to say this, but I actually like the fell bats we have now. They look funky, like some kind of strange flying bat-pigs.

I still don't like the look of that price tag at all, though. Got enough metal ones since earlier, thankfully.

 

[Elbisrever]

Meh I dont really like the fellbats right now, but they really have to get some stat improvements or else im not buying new ones either. I'd go with the Vargheists, they're flying too and pack al lot more punch.
I don't really mind the zombies we have now, but indeed, they don't match the ones pully the corpse chart.

The thing I'm most excited about is to see what kind of synergy and combo's we can get out of the new armybook

 

[Markuene]

anyone got new WD? Some people say its avaibale in Krakow in Poland but thats like 2 hours driving from where I live so thats not an option. Some shops claim they gonna get it next week - along with the new models, so thats kinda strange

 

[Elbisrever]

This saturday is the 7th, and my shop always gets it's new shipment on saturday. So I guess that when I'll get to see the new white dwarf

 

[Elbisrever]

CORRECTION:

I just went to my local game shop and I bought the new WD!!!

I'll be posting facts as soon as I read this baby through a bit!

 

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Damn you you lucky bugger!

Tell us the crack the moment you know whats going on.

 

[TMS]

That's it, I'm heading down to my game shop as well.

Edit: Figured I'd give them a call first, and it turns out they've got them in stock and for sale. Woo!

 

[Markuene]

told yaerv: We're all ears

 

[Elbisrever]

*Rules:

- The "Humger-rule" is correct as stated before.
- Vampires can always march. ( But we were all expecting that) This aslso goes for other vampiric creatures such as Varghulfs and Vargheists!
- Undead units can march within 12" of the general as before.
- The combo Vlad and Isabella in the same unit gives them ASF. Vlad has 4+ ward save because of his ring, and his Blooddrinker increases the Hunger rule to a 4+ as stated before. Isabella's chalice can heal vlad as it did in the past.
- 38 Skellies with command group are 220 pts
- Hero-Tomb Banshees are 95 pts
- 40 Ghouls with Ghast are 410 pts. Sorry guys!
- 10 BK with command group are 290 pts. This includes barding and lances
- Bk still have their ethereal steeds. The Killing Blow no seems to work even if a Wight (king) has a magical blade.
- 5 Hexwraiths with Hellwraith are 160 pts
- The rules for Hexwraiths are correct as stated before, causing str 5 flaming magical hits ( no mention how many hits) with no armor saves allowed.
- 3 spirit hosts are 135 pts
- ME with Blasphemous Tome is 240 pts
- 10 dire wolves with doom wolf cost 90 pts
- 40 zombies with musician and SB cost 130 pts
- Corpse Cart with Balefire is 105 pts
- 3 Vargheists cos 138 pts
- 5 Fellbats cost 80 pts
- Varghulf is 175 pts
- Hero Cairn Wrath is 60 pts
- Kemmler is 350 pts and Krell 205 pts
** There is no mention or picture of a Black Coach as I have seen so far....
** Also no mention of typical blood lines, however, Ghoulkings are still a seperate form of Vampire

- A corpse master is the one on both the ME as the Corpse Cart. Corpse cart rule "Vigour Mortis" is correct as stated before. However, a Necromancer can replace a Corpsemaster on both the ME and Corpse Cart

*Items:
- Nightshroud still exists, forcing you're opponent to strike last. Very good combo when your Vamp is sitting on a mount that has low intiative ( zombiedragon)'
- Skabscrath ( prolly the blade of Agony that was stated before) gives a Vampire 7 attacks on the charge ( so +2 I guess) and is able to Death Shriek just as a Terrorgheist.

*Powers:
- Aura of Dark Majesty is a -1 LD To all in basecontact. So if a Vampire was to sit in a CovenThrone, it counts the base of the Throne for this rule. This is a combo I was hoping for.
- Curse of the Revenant power gives +1 wound, bringing it up to 4 wounds for a lord.
- Master of black arts is correct as stated before

*Magic:
- Lore Atribute is correct, stated as before that either the wizard or a friendly model within 12" recovers 1 wound
- ION is indeed signature spell, radius of 6" ( or boosted 12" or 18" ), D6 + casters level worth of models to each unit in range
- Raise dead is still in the lore, which can bring up to 15 skellies or zombies on the battle field
- Vanhels Dance Macabre is virtually the same. Hellish Vigour is back, but not sure what it does. Curse of the Years is also still in the game.
- 1 Necromancer may be upgraded to Master of the Dead - the only wa to incease the size of skeleton warriors summond by Raise Dead spell.

*Models:
- The CT/ME seems to have a chariotbase, not a big Terrorgheistbase.
- No new Zombie models presented in the WD
- Kemmler is the same old model, but now in Finecast. Which I think is fine, since it was one of the best models in history.


I have posted these facts from what I have read quickly. There is a battle report which might give more information, but I'll post that later.

Cheers!

 

[TMS]

I'll try to give you some new and exciting information once I've read through it. I did notice one thing right away though: on the coven throne, it appears that the pillows that the vampire lady is resting one is stuffed with guts. You can see it spilling out of one in a detailed pic. :lol:

Edit: looks like Elbis was on it faster than I was! I see he didn't mention any pillow-guts, though.

 

[TMS]

I don't know if this has already been told elsewhere but it appears that our Vampire Lords will have 5 attacks basic. They also seem to be lvl 1 wizards as default, and not lvl 2.

Edit: They can still reach lvl 4, though, unless Phil Kelly's being stupid.

 

[Elbisrever]

I'll try to give you some new and exciting information once I've read through it. I did notice one thing right away though: on the coven throne, it appears that the pillows that the vampire lady is resting one is stuffed with guts. You can see it spilling out of one in a detailed pic. :lol:

Edit: looks like Elbis was on it faster than I was! I see he didn't mention any pillow-guts, though.

Hehe, sorry mate

 

[count_caliban]

Anything about fell bats in WD! I like the current models and they're one of the few models that finecast would be an improvement on. I need at least six. Best case scenario, recast slight price raise. Worst case they cost fifty dollars and I have to scour eBay for metal ones or go through Reaper. The other possibility is they don't change at all, which isn't terrible.

 

[TMS]

Caliban, it has been confirmed that the fell bat models will be turned into finecast and sold with 3 models in each package. The price will rise to suit, though..

Edit: And yes, $50 is what it appears to end at. :silent:

 

[Elbisrever]

Anything about fell bats in WD! I like the current models and they're one of the few models that finecast would be an improvement on. I need at least six. Best case scenario, recast slight price raise. Worst case they cost fifty dollars and I have to scour eBay for metal ones or go through Reaper. The other possibility is they don't change at all, which isn't terrible.

No new models for Fell Bats or Swarms seen so far
The spirit hosts are also still the old models, but I don't really care, cuz you can make any model into Spirit Hosts as long as you paint the ethereal

 

[count_caliban]

Caliban, it has been confirmed that the fell bat models will be turned into finecast and sold with 3 models in each package. The price will rise to suit, though..

Edit: And yes, $50 is what it appears to end at. :silent:

Where has this been confirmed? From what I've seen its a rumor.

 

[Markuene]

thank guys, let us know if characters etc can recover more than 1 wound by casting ION, and share some stats - zombie please:konrad:

 

[count_caliban]

Yes! We must know zombie rules.

 

[TMS]

Where has this been confirmed? From what I've seen its a rumor.

Now that you say it I don't think there's been an official answer about this, yet. There is This List of products for the release over on BoLS, though.

 

[count_caliban]

That list is originally from dakka I believe. I just don't see them recasting the old necromancers in fineca$t, considering they did an old one in plastic recently. Also I don't predict they'll bother with the wight bbs. And I fear them keeping the black coach is just wishful thinking.

 

[Markuene]

so Dance Macabre works the same way? so is it still possible to charge in the magic phase?

 

[TMS]

I haven't found much about that yet, but there is mention of a spell called Hellish Vigour, which was also in the 6th edition army book. If I remember correctly it was this spell that allowed an undead unit to make a charge move in the magic phase, while VDM was only good for boosting troops in combat. The 7th ed VDM combined these two spells into one, perhaps they've been split apart again?