Sunny's challenge
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Aussie's Zed Dragon 3k
Lord
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Quickblood, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Ogre Blade, Zombie Dragon, Heavy Armour, Level 4 LoV
Heroes
Vampire: Enchanted Shield, Aura of Dark Majesty, Opal Amulet, Coven Throne, Heavy Armour
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll
Core
45 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
29 Skeleton Warriors: FC,Banner of Swiftness
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf
9 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter
Rare
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2997pts
Lord
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Quickblood, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Ogre Blade, Zombie Dragon, Heavy Armour, Level 4 LoV
Heroes
Vampire: Enchanted Shield, Aura of Dark Majesty, Opal Amulet, Coven Throne, Heavy Armour
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll
Core
45 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
29 Skeleton Warriors: FC,Banner of Swiftness
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf
5 Dire Wolves: Doom Wolf
9 Crypt Horrors: Crypt Haunter
Rare
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2997pts
Sunny, I bet that the Zombie Dragon list you just wrote doesn't allow Grand army special rules. Aussie and I are both going to the same GT in October and he wants to run a Zombie dragon in the list.
Now for mine. I want a Slaanesh Warriors list. Shaggoth, Winged DP, Chosen, 3,000pt Again, No Grand Army. Sorcerer (Lord or Hero),Exalted BSB, Exalted non BSB, Hellcannon, Chimera (Atleast 1), A couple of Chariots (Core or Special). I know I gave you a lot to work with and not so many point to fit it all in, but thats where the challenge in "Sunny's Challenge" comes from!
Now for mine. I want a Slaanesh Warriors list. Shaggoth, Winged DP, Chosen, 3,000pt Again, No Grand Army. Sorcerer (Lord or Hero),Exalted BSB, Exalted non BSB, Hellcannon, Chimera (Atleast 1), A couple of Chariots (Core or Special). I know I gave you a lot to work with and not so many point to fit it all in, but thats where the challenge in "Sunny's Challenge" comes from!
@Corien: Aussie should have written that so I didn't waste my time 
Cool with the challenge, I don't have the WoC book at the moment, but I'll see when I can get your challenge done.
Cool with the challenge, I don't have the WoC book at the moment, but I'll see when I can get your challenge done.
Seneschal's High Elf Army
LORD
Archmage: Level 4(Death), Barded Elven Steed, Talisman of Preservation, Dispel scroll
HERO
Lothern Seahelm: BSB, Skycutter, Armour of Caledor
CORE
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
10 Silver Helms: Shields, FC
SPECIAL
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
3 Tiranoc Chariots
3 Tiranoc Chariots
3 Tiranoc Chariots
RARE
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Total: 2497
LORD
Archmage: Level 4(Death), Barded Elven Steed, Talisman of Preservation, Dispel scroll
HERO
Lothern Seahelm: BSB, Skycutter, Armour of Caledor
CORE
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
5 Elyrian Reavers: Take bows
10 Silver Helms: Shields, FC
SPECIAL
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
Lother Skycutter: Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
3 Tiranoc Chariots
3 Tiranoc Chariots
3 Tiranoc Chariots
RARE
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Eagle Claw Boltthrower
Total: 2497
i know its the second list i ask from you, but i have this month a dual tournemend and playing 1200 points per person. my teammate plays with warriors of choas. any ideas what a can put next to it?
no triple specials no double rares
no triple specials no double rares
my team mate is prob going to field
Sorcerer
23 Warriors
2x5 Warhounds
2 Gorebeast Chariots
3 Skullcrushers
so is this list good to field for me?
master nexro lvl 4
31 ghouls unit champ
8 crypt horrors
5 hexwraiths
terrorgheist
Sorcerer
23 Warriors
2x5 Warhounds
2 Gorebeast Chariots
3 Skullcrushers
so is this list good to field for me?
master nexro lvl 4
31 ghouls unit champ
8 crypt horrors
5 hexwraiths
terrorgheist
Hey Sunny,
I have been working on a list and wanted to try to downsize it to 2400 and/or 1600 since no one in my gaming group plays at 3000 points. No idea if it is really possible while maintaining the core ideas of the list.
- Highly mobile caster/characters, able to fly off and complete tasks where needed.
- WK pair to keep the above character(s) safe inside the bus when they are not flying around solo. Also has the potential to make the front rank "VL, vamp, unit champ, WK, WK BSB" for a killy front rank.
Psi's Hellsteed List
Lords
VL - lvl 2 LoV, Shield, HA, Hellsteed, Ogre Blade,Talisman of Preservation, OTS, QB, RF, Beguile (489)
MN - lvl 4 death, Hellsteed, Dispel Scroll, Potion of Speed (260)
Hero
Vampire - lvl 1 LoV, Lance, Shield, Hellsteed, Armor of Destiny, QB (225)
WK - Lance, Barded SS, Enchanted Shield, Obsidian Lodestone, BSB (185)
WK - Lance, Barded SS, Charmed Shield (115)
Core
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
5 Dire Wolves - Doom Wolf (50)
5 Dire Wolves - Doom Wolf (50)
40 Ghouls - Ghast (410)
Special
13 BK - FC, lances, barding (383)
1 Spirit host (X)
1 Spirit host (X)
1 Spirit host (X)
Rare
Terrorgheist (X)
Terrorgheist (X)
Total points should be 2992/3000
I have been working on a list and wanted to try to downsize it to 2400 and/or 1600 since no one in my gaming group plays at 3000 points. No idea if it is really possible while maintaining the core ideas of the list.
- Highly mobile caster/characters, able to fly off and complete tasks where needed.
- WK pair to keep the above character(s) safe inside the bus when they are not flying around solo. Also has the potential to make the front rank "VL, vamp, unit champ, WK, WK BSB" for a killy front rank.
Psi's Hellsteed List
Lords
VL - lvl 2 LoV, Shield, HA, Hellsteed, Ogre Blade,Talisman of Preservation, OTS, QB, RF, Beguile (489)
MN - lvl 4 death, Hellsteed, Dispel Scroll, Potion of Speed (260)
Hero
Vampire - lvl 1 LoV, Lance, Shield, Hellsteed, Armor of Destiny, QB (225)
WK - Lance, Barded SS, Enchanted Shield, Obsidian Lodestone, BSB (185)
WK - Lance, Barded SS, Charmed Shield (115)
Core
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
25 Zeds - Standard (80)
5 Dire Wolves - Doom Wolf (50)
5 Dire Wolves - Doom Wolf (50)
40 Ghouls - Ghast (410)
Special
13 BK - FC, lances, barding (383)
1 Spirit host (X)
1 Spirit host (X)
1 Spirit host (X)
Rare
Terrorgheist (X)
Terrorgheist (X)
Total points should be 2992/3000
@Stephan: Still a solid list
@Psiosis: Hmm, I think you have some very expensive character builds. Some things you could cut back:
1. I dislike the VL in this list. You want flying casters? Then don't make a hybrid. I would drop him all together and take a SGK with MotBA and Fencers Blades.
2. Cut 150 points of Core(I assume you have 750).
3. Armor of Destiny is way too expensive.
4. Drop the WK's there's no need to keep your expensive characters in the back, make them earn their keep by fighting, or if in danger fly them out of the unit.
5. Instead of the WK's I would take a level 2 baby vamp with shadow.
PS. Nice to see that you've used my tip about Potion of Speed on the Deathromancer
@Psiosis: Hmm, I think you have some very expensive character builds. Some things you could cut back:
1. I dislike the VL in this list. You want flying casters? Then don't make a hybrid. I would drop him all together and take a SGK with MotBA and Fencers Blades.
2. Cut 150 points of Core(I assume you have 750).
3. Armor of Destiny is way too expensive.
4. Drop the WK's there's no need to keep your expensive characters in the back, make them earn their keep by fighting, or if in danger fly them out of the unit.
5. Instead of the WK's I would take a level 2 baby vamp with shadow.
PS. Nice to see that you've used my tip about Potion of Speed on the Deathromancer
The Sun King said:@Psiosis: Hmm, I think you have some very expensive character builds. Some things you could cut back:
1. I dislike the VL in this list. You want flying casters? Then don't make a hybrid. I would drop him all together and take a SGK with MotBA and Fencers Blades.
2. Cut 150 points of Core(I assume you have 750).
3. Armor of Destiny is way too expensive.
4. Drop the WK's there's no need to keep your expensive characters in the back, make them earn their keep by fighting, or if in danger fly them out of the unit.
5. Instead of the WK's I would take a level 2 baby vamp with shadow.
PS. Nice to see that you've used my tip about Potion of Speed on the Deathromancer
I am not sold yet in the idea of flying casters, but I think it could be an interesting idea. I agree that I need to make them casters that can fly OR Fighters that don't fly.
Core of course needs to shrink to 25% never more
Armor of Destiny was there to try to save the baby vamp if he flew off on his own. I do agree its too expensive but at 3000 points I could spare the cost.
WK's were mainly to keep the MN out of the front rank if both vamps left the unit, but I could always just fly him behind for a 4+ LOS rather than a 2+ in unit LOS and save myself the WK's all together.
AND yes. Potion of speed for the ALL POWERFUL PURPLE SUN!
My existing 2400 points list runs 2 vamps and a VL.
VL - lvl 4 LoV, HA, Barded NM, Ogre Blade, Enchanted Sheild, Talisman of Preservation, QB, RF, Potion of Foolhardiness
Vamp 1 - lvl 1 LoV or LoS, Lance, Shield, Heavy Armour,Barded NM, Dragonhelm, OTS, RF, Dispel Scoll
Vamp 2 - lvl 1 LoD, Lance, Shield, Heavy Armour,Barded NM, Nightshroud, Luckstone, RF, Potion of Speed
I'll try to shrink the 3000 point list with your suggestions. This was more about looking at flying vampires and trying out a MN lvl 4 death.
Interesting list, Sun.
I'd only run 9 helms and field them in lance formation since HE's swing in 3 ranks now. They are a solid support unit.
I think the army may give up points easily due to the fragility and chariot-ness (I made up a word) of the cutters. Since they can't march, they will be in trouble fast.
I'd only run 9 helms and field them in lance formation since HE's swing in 3 ranks now. They are a solid support unit.
I think the army may give up points easily due to the fragility and chariot-ness (I made up a word) of the cutters. Since they can't march, they will be in trouble fast.
Prince: Talisman Of Preservation; Star Lance; Dragon Helm; Star Dragon; heavy armour; shield. 624
Noble: Enchanted Shield; Luckstone; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding); spear; heavy armour; Battle Standard. 126
Mage: Golden Crown of Atrazar; Dispel Scroll; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Elven Steed. 165
30 Spearmen: musician; standard bearer (Gleaming Pendant ). 295
5 Ellyrian Reavers 80
10 Silver Helms: musician; standard bearer; shields. 250
21 White Lions of Chrace: Guardian; musician; standard bearer (Banner of the World Dragon). 353
10 Dragon Princes of Caledor: Drakemaster; musician; standard bearer (Razor Standard). 365
Frostheart Phoenix
2,498 points
Noble: Enchanted Shield; Luckstone; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding); spear; heavy armour; Battle Standard. 126
Mage: Golden Crown of Atrazar; Dispel Scroll; Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Elven Steed. 165
30 Spearmen: musician; standard bearer (Gleaming Pendant ). 295
5 Ellyrian Reavers 80
10 Silver Helms: musician; standard bearer; shields. 250
21 White Lions of Chrace: Guardian; musician; standard bearer (Banner of the World Dragon). 353
10 Dragon Princes of Caledor: Drakemaster; musician; standard bearer (Razor Standard). 365
Frostheart Phoenix
2,498 points
@Sen: Yeah the giving up of points is one of my concerns as well, but then again I think the list is so mobile that you should be able to get the jump on most armies. The idea is pretty simple: Focus fire on a unit, charge it with all your impact hits-causing units, rinse and repeat. Good idea with the lance formation, because it also means that the Archmage can hide in second rank.
Also, this list will rip apart Empire-filth-lists without even blinking
@Johnny: Sen said no Dragon Princes
Also, this list will rip apart Empire-filth-lists without even blinking
@Johnny: Sen said no Dragon Princes
I like that HE list, it's very similar to what I run.
Seahelm is a bit out of place, and there's a tad too many chariots.
Impact hits sure deal with Nurgle warriors well!
Seahelm is a bit out of place, and there's a tad too many chariots.
Impact hits sure deal with Nurgle warriors well!
Nightreaver
Ghoul
Sunny, I have another challenge for you. 2.5 VC, only wolves, cavalry and flying units. Bonus points if you put your blender on a hellsteed and give him an entourage of baby vamps on hellsteeds (can you even make units comprising of just characters?)
@BBB: Thanks! Yeah I might have went over the top, but the idea was to create something new
@Nightreaver: Sounds fun. Yeah you can indeed make units out of characters alone.
@Eggie: The list you sent me is almost as filthy as they get but I can see if I can whip up an alternative
By the way: I just got 12(A+) in my bachelor! Hooray!
@Nightreaver: Sounds fun. Yeah you can indeed make units out of characters alone.
@Eggie: The list you sent me is almost as filthy as they get but I can see if I can whip up an alternative
By the way: I just got 12(A+) in my bachelor! Hooray!
Well congrats on the 12! I have no idea what that means but you're excieted about it so I would assume that it's a big deal!