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najo

Mortarch of the Dark Soul
True Blood
Dec 23, 2012
2,046
Oregon
Nice catch @Asmodeus ;) I'll have to make do with the worst choices in core then :)
Guess that means our core isn't as bad as some players think!

Side note, you have to use minimum core. Can't have you fielding a whole army of zombies or skeletons!

That actually would work too!
 

najo

Mortarch of the Dark Soul
True Blood
Dec 23, 2012
2,046
Oregon
Obnoxious sidenote bordering on thread spam for those who are wondering:

I fielded in a competitive game 100 zombie unit couple months ago. It was a total pain in the ass for the Warriors of Chaos player I was facing. He couldn't kill the unit. It survived the whole game taking a beating from a tooled up Daemon Prince and his bros.
 
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Seneschal

Liche
True Blood
May 15, 2008
5,520
Whoa, mate! I said I didn't want a list thT would make people rage quit ;-)

I can work this, though. Switching some GR for GG.

Not a fan of bow of Loren + Hail of Doom BSBs?

I used to field a four man cube of tree kin but asrai.org said I was nuts, lol
 

Quinten

Grave Guard
Jul 17, 2014
267
Here is a challenge. Make the most competitive 2500pt list you can think of using this collection and you have to use the corpse cart, manfred, and the mortis engine with the BT upgrade

Collection:
manfred
vlad
2 necros
2 cairn wraiths
banshee
2 wight king(one bsb)
isabella
40 ghouls
200 zombies
55 skeletons spears
20 dire wolves
5 spirit hosts
corpse cart
10 black knights
4 vargheists
8 crypt horrors
vargulf
mortis engine
terrorgheist

Good luck!
 

The Sun King

Moderator
Staff member
True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
Whoa, mate! I said I didn't want a list thT would make people rage quit ;-)

I can work this, though. Switching some GR for GG.

Not a fan of bow of Loren + Hail of Doom BSBs?

I used to field a four man cube of tree kin but asrai.org said I was nuts, lol

What is wrong with the Tree Kin Cube? I just thought it would be nice in this list so you could hold a unit for a round or two.

Sure, Bow of Loren+ Hail of Doom is nice, I tried to get it in there but decided to go with better saves for the bsb since my plan was to get into CC with him and the Wild Riders. And sorry, I didn't mean to make a list that forces rage quits :D
 
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The Sun King

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True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
@najo 's Bucket List:

Vlad
Isabella

40 Ghouls + Ghast
51 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Banner of Swiftness

Batswarm
Batswarm
Batswarm
Corpsecart: Balefire
Corpsecart: Unholy Lodestone
Corpsecart

10 Blood Knights: Music, Banner, Flag of the Blood Keep
2500 points total

@Quinten Roster:
Count Mannfred
Wraith
Wraith
Banshee

40 Ghouls: Ghast
5 DW
5 DW
48 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Banner of Swiftness

8 Crypt Horrors
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
4 Vargheist: Vargoyle
Corpse Cart: Balefire

Mortis Engine: Blasphemous Tome
 
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najo

Mortarch of the Dark Soul
True Blood
Dec 23, 2012
2,046
Oregon
Nice work leveraging Vlad and Isabella and the batswarms! Played smart that list could cause headaches and even real damage with the blood knights. Better than I expected. Nice work!

We all should try playing it and then report back if we can win with it.
 

najo

Mortarch of the Dark Soul
True Blood
Dec 23, 2012
2,046
Oregon
Whoa, mate! I said I didn't want a list thT would make people rage quit ;-)

I can work this, though. Switching some GR for GG.

Not a fan of bow of Loren + Hail of Doom BSBs?

I used to field a four man cube of tree kin but asrai.org said I was nuts, lol
Asrai.org has trouble with the new tactics their last book introduced. Good example is the dismissal of dryads or combat blitz lists focused on using sisters to support wild riders. Wood elves can play very shock and awe combat focus now and many players don't seem willing to experiment to fine tune those options. I support your treekin cube!
 
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The Sun King

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True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
"I support your treekin cube!" - Best quote in a long time! Should be a bumpersticker.
It seems to me that the new WE can make some really hardhitting blitz-lists, but the community is kind of stuck in the old way of playing WE, just like with Dwarfs - IMO.

Glad you think I came out on top with that insane challenge of yours. If I weren't going to tournaments at the moment I would definitely try it out but I'm trying to keep my game sharp these days :)
 
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najo

Mortarch of the Dark Soul
True Blood
Dec 23, 2012
2,046
Oregon
I agree. Stick that in the little quote-y quote machine and attribute it to me. I'd do it but I don't want to look self-absorbed or vain :tongue:
 

Lynks

Lord of RAW
True Blood
Dec 29, 2010
2,215
Sydney
we have a system now days for adding quotes to the generator, it is subject to approval but it's there.

"Quotations -> Add a Quotation"


*Reads Sun King's Yellow/ Red list* *Shifty eyes* That totally isn't more or less a list I've run on one or two occasions :innocent:
 

Asmodeus

Skeleton
Dec 16, 2013
86
Here is my challenge for you:

Pure VC list and best close combat damage per model ratio possible (including screams, and buff effects but damage from spells will not count).

For damage calculation use: Enemy WS 4, enemy T4 enemy save 5+
 
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The Sun King

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True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
Lol @Lynks ! "You're braver than I thought" to quote Princess Leia :D How did it perform? What is it's strengths and drawbacks? Btw. There is no red units in the list :D
 

Lynks

Lord of RAW
True Blood
Dec 29, 2010
2,215
Sydney
Well, it was certainly less effective and less memorable than my curb stomp list. It didn't do too poorly but that might have been because it was against brettonians and not a lot of non-core can stand a charge from 10 blood knights :tongue:. Having said that literally everything else was just dead weight
 
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The Sun King

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True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
@Asmodeus DPR List:

Lord:
Strigoi Ghoul King: QB, RF, Sword of Bloodshed, Potion of Strength

Core:
41 Ghouls: Ghast
41 Ghouls: Ghast

Special:
4 Harbingers
4 Harbingers
10 Hexwraiths
10 Hexwraiths
 

Hellion Nox

Grave Guard
Nov 10, 2014
240
As you were aware, I had a challenge for you.
Both a 2400 point and 4000 point list.

Undead Legions :
- 50% Lords/Heroes
- No Khaine Magic

Please include the following in the list :
- Duo Mortis Engines
- Casket of Souls

However, no Zombies!
Oh, one more thing to spice things up.
By all means, feel free to include a vampire Lord (or perhaps even 2!) Though if possible, try to avoid the ogre blade run-of-the-mill VL (sword of bloodshed, perhaps?)

Have fun! :)
 

Nicreap

Ghoul
Dec 2, 2014
187
You mentioned in the Dual Engine thread your are interested in more challenges. SO if you are up for undead legions list I have one for you. Make a competetive 2500 point undead legions list making use of 8 or more Great weapon wielding ushabti.
 

The Sun King

Moderator
Staff member
True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
Yay! New challenges! @Hellion Nox - is it okay if I just make a 2400 pts list? I've never played games above the average so wouldn't be much I could teach you.

@Nicreap
Lord:
Mannfred Mortarch of Night

Core:
8 Chariots: FC, Banner of Swiftness
5 Skeleton Horsemen: Banner
5 Skeleton Horsemen: Banner, Musician

Special:
4 Morghast Harbingers
Tomb Scorpion
8 Ushabti w. Greatweapons

Rare:
4 Morghast Archai
 

Asmodeus

Skeleton
Dec 16, 2013
86
@@The Sun King - i have another.

-2400 ETC
- flying circus concept(flying characters/units heavy)
- no morghasts;)
 
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The Sun King

Moderator
Staff member
True Blood
Aug 22, 2012
4,989
Copenhagen
@Hellion Nox

I was trying to fit two Lords in but I felt the list would struggle to bring strong units to the table with so many points invested in rare and lords. This is what I came up with:

Lord
Vlad, Mortarch of Shadow, 3 Levels of Death (hoping for Doom and Darkness)

Heroes:
Banshee
Banshee
Banshee
Banshee

Core:
5 DW
5 DW
5 DW
50 Skeleton Warriors (VC): FC, Screaming Banner, Spears
42 Skeletons Warriors (TK): FC [Back-up bunker for Vlad]

Special:
4 Harbingers [Keep them close to the Engines and they become epic in CC]

Rare:
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine
Casket of Souls [Combine with Vlad for most effectiveness]

Total points: 2398
 

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