TVC OOC (New)

[Disciple of Nagash]

Ok, looking at the current bios:

Vekarin - Your characters are ok
Gree - your characters are ok
MS - your characters are ok
GoW - I was not sure on V'azrins magic power, but I'll leave it as it is............ Karls tactic skill should be 9 at max. Only Mircea has 10. No sure why Karls running speed is faster than average at 7 as well? Same for his agility, even Lahmians aren't that high.
Ghouly - Graveclaws strength is fine, as long as you understand you won't be able to have that other Strigoi character you was planning on introducing stronger than him. Also his Weapon Skill relates to his skill in combat (perhaps I should rename it?), meaning unarmed combat as well. Considering he is suppose to be one of the best in combat in the Council he should be a 8/9. His toughness is too high. 5 is average for a vamp, 10 is basically unkillable. Graveclaw might be tough but a cannonball to the head would stop him. I would put his toughness at 8.
Simon - Again not sure why you basic speed is so high at 7? The only other question is why he has such a high basic toughness? I fully agree with T10 with the Carstein Ring, however without out I can't see why he is so much tougher than a normal vampire lord?

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Oh and one thing I forgot to say.

On the subject of taking control of another vampires / necromancers troops. I have noticed that more and more characters have been doing it, so I am putting limits in place. Realistically it is not easy anyway, as troops are tied magically to their master. Only someone of extreme skill would be able to do it.

So from now on unless you specifically have an ability which allows you to do this (such as Lesa), then you will not be able to do it. I would expect any character with this skill to be a very powerful caster anyway, however I would still want to see a good reason why the character can do it. Even if you character can do it, they will find it very difficult and will only be able to do it to weak casters.

 

[TMS]

I take it that I'm all set for posting in the chapter again then? I'd like to throw in a closing post to the duel between myself and Erick's antagonistic werewolf.

 

[Simon von Carstein]

Sorry I left the original numbers in the stats when I coming up with them. I have corrected them.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Ah excellent. Cheers for the change Simon. Yes all those that have got the ok are fine to post.

 

[Get of W'soran]

Ok, looking at the current bios:
GoW - I was not sure on V'azrins magic power, but I'll leave it as it is............ Karls tactic skill should be 9 at max. Only Mircea has 10. No sure why Karls running speed is faster than average at 7 as well? Same for his agility, even Lahmians aren't that high.

Well with V'azrin I thought he was the piniacle of magic tbh thats why.
Yea I meant to set Karl's at 8 actually, I have no idea why its not.
And yea your right about the speeds, hes suppose to be above average but not that high.

I did Karl's bio first and couldn't figure the numbers right.

Changed Speed to 5, agility to 6, and tactical knowledge to 8.
Hope thats ok!

 

[Ghouly]

a cannonball to the head whould kill Graveclaw outright in his bio I said anything that does not kill Graveclaw outright he will recover from.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

So in that case he should be T8, which is extremely tough but not unkillable. T10 is for someone that is basically unkillable such as Simon with the Carstein Ring.

@ GoW, that's great. I have your OM btw, will get back to you shortly.

 

[Ghouly]

I'll lower him dowen to toughness nine hows that

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Why Ghouly? At 8 you will still be the toughest anyway bar the Carstein Ring. I think 8 is tough enough.

 

[Ghouly]

I donno I was trying to compremise but if you insist I'll lower him down to 8.

 

[Get of W'soran]

@ GoW, that's great. I have your OM btw, will get back to you shortly.

No problem mate, take your time

 

[Ghouly]

DoN one thing I am wondering would Graveclaw be able to pysicaly overpower Nagash? cuse I'm abit nervous about that

 

[Gree]

Ghouly - Graveclaws strength is fine, as long as you understand you won't be able to have that other Strigoi character you was planning on introducing stronger than him.

Yeah about that, I am wondering exactly how stronger Vrakian is. I assumed that the numbering system for strength was like the Tabletop incarnation, thus I planned Vrakian to be 8, thinking Graveclaw would be 7. Considering that Vrakian is much older and of the Second Generation.

If we are both then that would mean we are stronger than most greater deamons and a Star Dragon! Or at least that was the impression I got. Feel free to correct me DoN.

Anyway I've got Vrakian up, Serpino should follow, then maybe Luke and Jan. God, Serpino's bio is going to be massive.

DoN one thing I am wondering would Graveclaw be able to pysicaly overpower Nagash? cuse I'm abit nervous about that

I have a feeling that Nagash would curbstomp anyone of the Council is anything, regardless of how good you are. He is Nagash after all.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Nagash's stats would be over the 10 point system, so no, no physically overpowering the 16 foot Supreme Lord of the Undead.

In regards to the Graveclaw / Vrakian sitiuation I don't want another character completely overshadowing Ghouly's character as it seems unfair considering Graveclaw has held that spot for all this time.

So firstly, Ghouly - how do you feel in regards to Vrakian? Secondly, again T9 is exceedingly tough. The one thing I don't want is for too many characters that the others have no chance in hell of hurting, as it then makes things a bit unfair.

 

[Gree]

The one thing I don't want is for too many characters that the others have no chance in hell of hurting, as it then makes things a bit unfair.

To be honest I intended the T9 to be suited to normal weapons, silver and magical would have a much greater chance of hurting Vrakian. It really represents regeneration anyway. He can be hurt, it just heals up quick.

As for the strength, is Graveclaw and Vrakian really stronger than a Star Dragon or a bloodthirster? Is the strength thing really the TT system? Because if so we would be ripping apart Dragons like paper mache at Strength 10. (Star Dragon is only S7, I honestly don't think Graveclaw is that much stronger than a full-grown Star Dragon.)

In regards to the Graveclaw / Vrakian sitiuation I don't want another character completely overshadowing Ghouly's character as it seems unfair considering Graveclaw has held that spot for all this time.

I assure you, I did not create Vrakian solely to surpass and belitte ghouly.

 

[Drog_Manslayer]

I'm having trouble coming up with appropriate stats for Arg.

Might take me some time.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I know Gree, that wasn't the intention of my post. I know you are trying out different characters and I have no problem with that, however I need to be fair and make sure that everyone is happy.

However I do see your point about the strength situation. To be honest I completely forgot I had left it in the warhammer scale.

I have changed the scale to match the other options as no other stats use the warhammer stat scale. Looking at the stats they all make sense still.

So now, S10 is extremely powerful for a vampire (things such as star dragons would be over the 10 point scale). I am not willing for either of your vampires to go over this so you would either have to be the same S or Graveclaw to go down a point. Personally I think both being at S10 due to Graveclaw just naturally being strong would be fine.

In regards to the Toughness thing. I still think Graveclaw should be 8, as should Vrakian. With Vrakian's regen that could push it to 9 however the regen would not work against fire etc whereas Graveclaw stays as tough whatever hits him.

How does that sound to everyone?

Btw, this will be the last superpowered, supertough Strigoi monstrosity I will accept in the TVC

 

[Gree]

I know Gree, that wasn't the intention of my post. I know you are trying out different characters and I have no problem with that, however I need to be fair and make sure that everyone is happy.

I understand completely, I mean no offense at all.

However I do see your point about the strength situation. To be honest I completely forgot I had left it in the warhammer scale.

I have changed the scale to match the other options as no other stats use the warhammer stat scale. Looking at the stats they all make sense still.

Ah, thank you, it all makes much more sense now.

Would this mean we would have to revise our strength attibutes now? I was acting on the assumption that it was Warhammer strength, I may have to change.

In regards to the Toughness thing. I still think Graveclaw should be 8, as should Vrakian. With Vrakian's regen that could push it to 9 however the regen would not work against fire etc whereas Graveclaw stays as tough whatever hits him.

Sure, How about I add that it goes down to 8 when hit by those weapons? Is that fine?

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Well everyone may need to check their strength, however 5 is average for a vampire Lord, so most characters should only be that anyway with a few exceptions.

I am ok with the toughness thing - how about Ghouly?

Also everyone - don't forget when you have time to post up your supporting characters, (remembering that most will be weaker than the average of 5 which is lord level).

 

[Gree]

Alright, when are you going to revise it? I still notice it in the thread.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Notice what? I already have revised the strength stat. In the example at top it now gives examples instead of saying as per the WHFB stat system.

 

[Gree]

I'm still reading it as the TT system, I just reloaded the page.

 

[Get of W'soran]

are you guys talking about the strength part?

If so this is what I'm seeing

Raw Strength: How much raw physical strength the character has when it comes to pushing, wrestling others etc.
Examples: same as the stat system in WHFB

Just FYI incase theres a glitchy going on with the forum

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

No my fault, I didn't click save! Should be right now.....