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Hello Sunny.
I have a challenge for you. Seeing now that I found the correct mindrazor thread also. My challenge is to make a mindrazor list. The things I would like as core of the army is some ghouls, skeletons preferred, vampires (of course), and then either terrorghists or mortis engines. I am looking to keep in line with a Wood Elf theme. Where a lot of things from that line I can easily make to look undead, by painting, and conversions. I am all right having a few necromancers around. Even necromancer lords if that is a better way. The point total will need to be 2500 as that is what my area plays. For most tournaments the special characters are banned. So I like to learn to play army lists without them.
Thank you for the help before and looking forward to what you come up with. As I am still looking through what I made and not to impressed.
I have a challenge for you. Seeing now that I found the correct mindrazor thread also. My challenge is to make a mindrazor list. The things I would like as core of the army is some ghouls, skeletons preferred, vampires (of course), and then either terrorghists or mortis engines. I am looking to keep in line with a Wood Elf theme. Where a lot of things from that line I can easily make to look undead, by painting, and conversions. I am all right having a few necromancers around. Even necromancer lords if that is a better way. The point total will need to be 2500 as that is what my area plays. For most tournaments the special characters are banned. So I like to learn to play army lists without them.
Thank you for the help before and looking forward to what you come up with. As I am still looking through what I made and not to impressed.
Hey Sunny! So, unfortunatley my friend got a little miffed about me using proxies so the list will have to wait until I get some more zombies and build up my gheists. 
But I'm hopefully doing a game today and I'll see if I can take pics. It'll be the other list you helped me on. Thanks!
@ all the magic guys. Legacy is an amazing format. I agree with the new stuff being wonky and kinda overpowered sometimes. I remember when the planeswalkers came out, I almost sold all my cards... The big problem is that anything remotely playable in tournaments is so expensive now. Take moat (legends). I got mine 10 years ago for about $40. A lot for a card at that time. Now it's over $300... This is what makes it unbearable. The average tournament deck will cost you $2k just to stay competetive. Although if you play casual, it can be as cheap as you want it to be
I just like the tournament atmosphere myself.
But I'm hopefully doing a game today and I'll see if I can take pics. It'll be the other list you helped me on. Thanks!@ all the magic guys. Legacy is an amazing format. I agree with the new stuff being wonky and kinda overpowered sometimes. I remember when the planeswalkers came out, I almost sold all my cards... The big problem is that anything remotely playable in tournaments is so expensive now. Take moat (legends). I got mine 10 years ago for about $40. A lot for a card at that time. Now it's over $300... This is what makes it unbearable. The average tournament deck will cost you $2k just to stay competetive. Although if you play casual, it can be as cheap as you want it to be
I just like the tournament atmosphere myself.
Sume's List
Master Necromancer: Seed of Rebirth, Level 4 Wizard Death
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, The Other Trickster's Shard, Red Fury, Dispel Scroll
HEROES
Vampire: Sword of Swift Slaying, Red Fury, Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Sword of Anti-Heros, Red Fury, Charmed Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour
CORE
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
50 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Eternal Flame
SPECIAL
4 Vargheists: Vargoyle
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine
Total Army Points: 2497pts
Normally I would bring 8 CH in a list like this but I thought I would do something different and threw some Vargs in there instead. Hope you enjoy it!
Aussie's List
Okay you asked for it Aussie
Here's a pretty wild list exploiting the Grand Army rules... can you say target saturation? 
LORD
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Quickblood, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Sword of Strife, Zombie Dragon, Heavy Armour, Level 4 Wizard
HEROES
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll
CORE
48 x Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
SPECIAL
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
RARE
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2999pts
Okay so one might argue that it's better to make the ethereal wall out of Cairn Wraiths... but then again it wouldn't be as cool as having 8 screams in one army. Aura of dark majesty would also be a sore sight in this list but couldn't find the points for it and the VL is flying around wrecking face anyways.
Master Necromancer: Seed of Rebirth, Level 4 Wizard Death
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, The Other Trickster's Shard, Red Fury, Dispel Scroll
HEROES
Vampire: Sword of Swift Slaying, Red Fury, Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Sword of Anti-Heros, Red Fury, Charmed Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour
CORE
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
50 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Eternal Flame
SPECIAL
4 Vargheists: Vargoyle
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
RARE
Mortis Engine
Mortis Engine
Total Army Points: 2497pts
Normally I would bring 8 CH in a list like this but I thought I would do something different and threw some Vargs in there instead. Hope you enjoy it!
Aussie's List
Okay you asked for it Aussie
Here's a pretty wild list exploiting the Grand Army rules... can you say target saturation? LORD
Vampire Lord: Red Fury, Quickblood, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Sword of Strife, Zombie Dragon, Heavy Armour, Level 4 Wizard
HEROES
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll
CORE
48 x Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness
40 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
SPECIAL
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
RARE
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2999pts
Okay so one might argue that it's better to make the ethereal wall out of Cairn Wraiths... but then again it wouldn't be as cool as having 8 screams in one army. Aura of dark majesty would also be a sore sight in this list but couldn't find the points for it and the VL is flying around wrecking face anyways.
Alright sunny a Bretonnian list that does not use HKB and follows the rules of there shall only be one (thought multiple of the same character is ok)
There shall only be one as in only one of each type of unit? And YAY a Bretonnian challenge - lovin' it JC Don't like the HKB build anyhow.
Don't like the HKB build anyhow.
Yeah sorry Mikael, it's still a work in progress... made one list but it hit 10 so didn't fulfill your requirement, still trying to figure it out though.
Swaiper's List
It was some interesting restrictions you gave me as it really sent me back to the kind of list that I used before I really got to know 8th(finding out how awesome CH's and ME's are ). So this was a trip back memory lane for me, thank you
LORDS
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, Dragonbane Gem, Potion of Strength, Red Fury, Aura of Dark Majesty
Master Necromancer: Level 4 Wizard Death
HEROES
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll, Level 2 Wizard LoV
CORE
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
50 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Banner of Swiftness
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
SPECIAL
39 Grave Guard: FC, Great Weapons, Banner of the Barrows
RARE
Varghulf
Total Army Points: 2498pts
So the idea is running the 4 Banshees and SGK in the Skeletons and run the unit 5 wide. That way you have a fast bus to transport the SGK into combat while you can scream away at your enemies... also the enemy is pretty screwed if they don't have magical attacks and end up in cc with this bus as only a few dudes can hit your SGK who will rip them apart in turn. The MN should focus on casting Doom and Darkness on the unit that you scream at(also good for making steadfast units run... but then again they won't be steadfast since you'll have 10 ranks). The Baby Necro is there as scroll caddy and backup LoV caster if the SGK should die. The GG can handle themselves, just pick the right matchups. The Varghulf should dominate a flank and hopefully get into the enemies rear lines. The MN bunkers in one of the Zombs units(who is extra drops and extra banners for Blood and Glory). In total you have 11 drops so you should be able to outdeploy your enemy.
It was some interesting restrictions you gave me as it really sent me back to the kind of list that I used before I really got to know 8th(finding out how awesome CH's and ME's are
). So this was a trip back memory lane for me, thank you LORDS
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, Dragonbane Gem, Potion of Strength, Red Fury, Aura of Dark Majesty
Master Necromancer: Level 4 Wizard Death
HEROES
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Tomb Banshee
Necromancer: Dispel Scroll, Level 2 Wizard LoV
CORE
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
50 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Banner of Swiftness
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
SPECIAL
39 Grave Guard: FC, Great Weapons, Banner of the Barrows
RARE
Varghulf
Total Army Points: 2498pts
So the idea is running the 4 Banshees and SGK in the Skeletons and run the unit 5 wide. That way you have a fast bus to transport the SGK into combat while you can scream away at your enemies... also the enemy is pretty screwed if they don't have magical attacks and end up in cc with this bus as only a few dudes can hit your SGK who will rip them apart in turn. The MN should focus on casting Doom and Darkness on the unit that you scream at(also good for making steadfast units run... but then again they won't be steadfast since you'll have 10 ranks). The Baby Necro is there as scroll caddy and backup LoV caster if the SGK should die. The GG can handle themselves, just pick the right matchups. The Varghulf should dominate a flank and hopefully get into the enemies rear lines. The MN bunkers in one of the Zombs units(who is extra drops and extra banners for Blood and Glory). In total you have 11 drops so you should be able to outdeploy your enemy.
Hi Sunny,
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Subscribed just to post in the two 'challenge' threads! I think this is a good idea, and overall I think it really helps players understand some of the lists being created, and why.
A bit of background on me... I won the NOVA Open (2 years ago, I think) with my Dwarfs, and haven't touched Fantasy since. I know the game decently, however I am still quite rusty - and with that comes my lack of knowledge of the new books. Sadly, I sold off all my fantasy armies, except my lizardmen (which is a 7th edition list [4 stegs, etc]).
I think I have convinced my friends to start up Fantasy again with me, doing an escalation league with the requirements of: Must be a new book, an army you don't own, and painted. This will force us to actually paint, and we're giving a good 3-4 week between point increases, so plenty of time to paint 200 points.
I would like the list to be fun, but also tournament ready when done... that being said, I would also like two lists, using most of the 'core' components, but still able to change it up. Say keep ~1250 points the same of 2500 (not counting characters).
[TL;DR] Starting a escalation league, want it to be the 'meanest' tournament list when done.
[Can Skip here if you want]
Subscribed just to post in the two 'challenge' threads! I think this is a good idea, and overall I think it really helps players understand some of the lists being created, and why.
A bit of background on me... I won the NOVA Open (2 years ago, I think) with my Dwarfs, and haven't touched Fantasy since. I know the game decently, however I am still quite rusty - and with that comes my lack of knowledge of the new books. Sadly, I sold off all my fantasy armies, except my lizardmen (which is a 7th edition list [4 stegs, etc]).
I think I have convinced my friends to start up Fantasy again with me, doing an escalation league with the requirements of: Must be a new book, an army you don't own, and painted. This will force us to actually paint, and we're giving a good 3-4 week between point increases, so plenty of time to paint 200 points.
I would like the list to be fun, but also tournament ready when done... that being said, I would also like two lists, using most of the 'core' components, but still able to change it up. Say keep ~1250 points the same of 2500 (not counting characters).
[TL;DR] Starting a escalation league, want it to be the 'meanest' tournament list when done.
Welcome to the forum Maaksel! I'm glad you my thread. I'm not entirely sure what your challenge is - could you please clarify?
Hi Sun King
I've read through most of your challenges, but not all.
So I hope this one haven't come up yet.
Army focused against chaos warriors.
2500pts
Lore of metal theme
That is pretty much it. I just read through the lores the other day,
and to me it looks like lore of metal seems tailor made to combat chaos warriors.
Don't know if this is a good idea, but would like to see what you do with it.
I've read through most of your challenges, but not all.
So I hope this one haven't come up yet.
Army focused against chaos warriors.
2500pts
Lore of metal theme
That is pretty much it. I just read through the lores the other day,
and to me it looks like lore of metal seems tailor made to combat chaos warriors.
Don't know if this is a good idea, but would like to see what you do with it.
Master! I was just about to ask for a Warriors of Chaos crushing list aswell but Ill settle for Tagakoners metal list ^^. But if you want, make one for me aswell. The obvious counter would ofc be screams and Lore of Death so try to make it without them ^^. Not a list against Monsters but against Chaos Warriors with shields and MoN ^^, maybe some chariots? Lets say 2000 pts?
but Ill settle for Tagakoners metal list ^^. But if you want, make one for me aswell. The obvious counter would ofc be screams and Lore of Death so try to make it without them ^^. Not a list against Monsters but against Chaos Warriors with shields and MoN ^^, maybe some chariots? Lets say 2000 pts?