Sunny's challenge

[maaksel]

Welcome to the forum Maaksel! I'm glad you my thread. I'm not entirely sure what your challenge is - could you please clarify?

Sorry for being somewhat wordy.

Create a list that can scale in an escalation league by 200-250 point increments. Starting at 500, up to 2500. When done, have it be GT Tournament worthy.

I guess it would be easier to create the "best" 2500 point list, then start subtracting from it.

This will allow me to buy all the models ahead of time, then start painting as I need the new units!

=)

 

[stuck804]

Hey Sun King!
I'm also new to Fantasy/VC and would very much be interested in an escalation league strategy as well Thank you!

sTuck

 

[Natalie]

2000pt and a 2400pt of pure cheese Sunny plz

Natalie x

 

[Johnny-Crass]

A list that I can not make work but characters can not all be naked

 

[Vipoid]

A list that I can not make work but characters can not all be naked

Let's not forget; Sunny can only write lists - how you model your characters is up to you. erv:

 

[The Sun King]

Wow! I'm so overwhelmed by all you requests - thanks guys, that's great! I'm in a bit of a stressed out week so I'll probably not start posting in a couple of days, but I promise you to get back at it soon.

@Swaiper: Yes my apprentice you'll have to suffice with one Anti WoC list for now
@Natalie: Could you come with some restrictions other than points total? The fun bit for me is the restrictions
@Johnny: I didn't understand a single word you just said?
@Vipoid: I can do alot of other things than writing lists! I totally have a life outside of this forum!... Ehh wait a minute... :tongue:
@Maaksel: I think the best way to do it is making a 2500 pts list with ideas on how to scale it... I don't have the time to make specific lists for all the scaling steps sadly

 

[Natalie]

Sunny......2000 pts and a 2400 pts Ghoul themed army of cheese. ......

x

Natalie

 

[hairyjeff]

OK, Sunny, this may take a while, but I'm happy to wait.5000 points. No monsters, no ghouls, up to 20 wolves. I have 300+ skellies, 200+ zombs, piles of spirits and wraiths, 80 GG, half GW, half sword & board,50 odd cav( which I don't mind re-doing to split as blood or black knights), 4 necro models, 3 mounted vamps and 6 foot vamps. Plenty of std brrs and Wight Kings. Also available are fell bats and swarms, but I haven't made them yet. I have no thrones or engines, and can't afford one! Whats the best you can do for me? Oh yes, there are enough command models for 8 regts of skellies, 3 GG, and 3 cav. Thanks if you even consider this! I'm just getting trashed in 8th by my O&G enemy, want to see if i've missed something.

 

[maaksel]

Challenge FAILED.

 

[The Sun King]

Mikael K's Challenge:
YAY! At long last I cracked Mikael's challenge! The challenge was to make a Dual Engine list that comped 13 at the lowest in the Swedish Comp system... now this was no small task for a cheese-no-comp player like myself But I ended up making this list that comps 14.4 which I think will have a decent chance:

LORD
Strigoi Ghoul King: Fencer's Blade, Dispel Scroll (-23)

HEROES
Vampire: Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour (-9)
Vampire: Charmed Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour (-9)

CORE
35 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast (-18)
40 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness (-5)
5 Dire Wolves (-3)

SPECIEAL
35 Grave Guard: FC, Great Weapons, Banner of the Barrows (-39)
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle (-8)
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle (-8)

RARE
Mortis Engine (-17)
Mortis Engine (17)
Total Army Points: 2499pts

Okay so the idea here is to get Okkam's Mindrazor and make the Ghouls and Skeletons some badass units with 5+ regen and S9 attacks. This list could definitely use a backup LoV caster, but if you play conservatively with the SGK it should be possible to keep him alive.

 

[Yukie]

Can I make a challenge too?

If so,
A Fluffy Challenge XD

A Von Carstein list which must include Vlad and as many other Von Carsteins as possible at 2500 points, but no other lords or heros. It also cannot include ghouls or horrors as the Von Carsteins would never stoop so low :tongue:

 

[The Sun King]

Johnny's Bretonnian Challenge:
The challenge was to make a 2500 pts Bretonnian list that only had one of each type of unit(Bowmen and characters were exempt from that rule). Right so this list is pretty much would I usually play with anywho - hope you like it!

LORDS
Bretonnian Lord: Virtue of Confidence, Armour of Agilulf, Sword of Anti-Heros, Gauntlet of the Duel, Barded Bretonnian Warhorse, Shield
Prophetess of the Lady: Level 4 Wizard Beasts, Bretonnian Warhorse

HEROES
Paladin: Gromril Great Helm, Sword of Might, Battle Standard, Barded Bretonnian Warhorse
Paladin: Dawnstone, Enchanted Shield, Barded Bretonnian Warhorse, Lance
Damsel of the Lady: Dispel Scroll, Level 2 Wizard Beasts, Barded Bretonnian Warhorse

CORE
8 Knights Errant: FC, Errantry Banner
15 Knights of the Realm: FC, Banner of Eternal Flame
10 Peasant Bowmen: Braziers, Skirmish
10 Peasant Bowmen: Braziers, Skirmish
11 Peasant Bowmen: Braziers, Skirmish

SPECIEAL
5 Mounted Yeomen
3 Peagasus Knights

RARE
12 Grail Knights: FC, Banner of Swiftness
Field Trebuchet
Total Army Points: 2498pts

The 2 rerollable Paladins, the challenge Lord and the Prophetess go with the Grail Knights to form a devastating Deathstar just waiting to get Savage Beast of Horros. The Damsel go with the KotR to buff them with MR1 and Wyssan's Wildform.


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Aussie's 1200 List
Not much to say about this list, should be pretty devastating at 1200 pts.


LORD
Master Necromancer: Level 4 Wizard

CORE
31 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast

SPECIAEL
8 Crypt Horrors
5 Hexwraiths

RARE
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 1199pts


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Tagakoner's Metal List vs WoC
Okay so I really liked this challenge since it forced me to use lore of metal... which IMO is a very underplayed lore, so it was cool to get a chance to get something together that would utilize this. The whole list focusses on 1 thing: Automatic Hits that ignore Armor saves. That's why I've filled the list with HW and Screams... I would love to play this list one day against WoC - so if you play this list at one point please do let us know who it went!


Strigoi Ghoul King: Red Fury, Dragonbane Gem, Skabscrath

HEROES
Vampire: Forbidden Lore (Metal),Aura of Dark Majesty, Sword of Swift Slaying, Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Metal, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Forbidden Lore (Metal), Aura of Dark Majesty, Charmed Shield, Dispel Scroll, Sword of Might, Level 2 Wizard Metal, Heavy Armour

CORE
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
20 Zombies: Banner
40 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Banner of Swiftness
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
10 Hexwraiths
9 Hexwraiths

RARE
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2498pts

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Natalie's 2k Ghoul list
Okay so I'm assuming that you are a new player Natalie, and that your opponents are too. In that case this army will wreck some serious face since it has alot of cheesy units in it. The lack of magic, support and characters make this list a bit soft against strong tacitcal players - but it will really be aweinspiring for your untrained enemies. I've also made a list that is 2400 where I have tried to sort out some of the problems this list have.

LORD
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, Dragonbane Gem, Red Fury, Dispel Scroll

CORE
41 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

SPECIAL
8 Crypt Horrors
8 Crypt Horrors

RARE
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 1998pts

Natalie's 2400 pts Ghoul list

LORDS
Strigoi Ghoul King: Sword of Bloodshed, Dragonbane Gem, Red Fury, AoDM
MN: Level 4 LoV

HERO:
Necromancer: DS

CORE
39 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
20 Zombs: Banner
20 Zombs: Banner

SPECIAL
8 Crypt Horrors
8 Crypt Horrors

RARE
Terrorgheist
Terrorgheist
Total Army Points: 2398pts

 

[Mikael.K]

Mikael K's Challenge:
YAY! At long last I cracked Mikael's challenge! The challenge was to make a Dual Engine list that comped 13 at the lowest in the Swedish Comp system... now this was no small task for a cheese-no-comp player like myself But I ended up making this list that comps 14.4 which I think will have a decent chance:

LORD
Strigoi Ghoul King: Fencer's Blade, Dispel Scroll (-23)

HEROES
Vampire: Enchanted Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour (-9)
Vampire: Charmed Shield, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Heavy Armour (-9)

CORE
35 Crypt Ghouls: Crypt Ghast (-18)
40 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Swiftness (-5)
5 Dire Wolves (-3)

SPECIEAL
35 Grave Guard: FC, Great Weapons, Banner of the Barrows (-39)
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle (-8)
3 Vargheists: Vargoyle (-8)

RARE
Mortis Engine (-17)
Mortis Engine (17)
Total Army Points: 2499pts

Okay so the idea here is to get Okkam's Mindrazor and make the Ghouls and Skeletons some badass units with 5+ regen and S9 attacks. This list could definitely use a backup LoV caster, but if you play conservatively with the SGK it should be possible to keep him alive.

This is awesome man! For a list that has such a high comp score, I really like it! Thanks!

 

[Johnny-Crass]

Proud of you Sunny, making my Razor list work in Sweed comp is no small feat as I really struggled with it

 

[The Sun King]

Wow thanks guys! Means a lot that the two of you liked it! It did take blood, tears and sweat

 

[The Sun King]

Hairy Jeff's 5000 pts List
Okay I have never played anything close to 5000 pts so I have no tactical advice regarding this, I just tried to put together the most cheesy and killy list that I could imagine from what models you have. It's actually fairly simple: Get the mounted characters into the bus while the rest of the vamps spread out across the infantry blocks(make sure to put the one who gets Okkam's Mindrazor somewhere in the middle where it can reach most of your units).

Vampire Lord: Talisman of Preservation, Quickblood, Red Fury, Ogre Blade, Charmed Shield, Level 4 Wizard LoV, Barded Nightmare, Heavy Armour
Vampire Lord: Sword of Bloodshed, Quickblood, Red Fury, Enchanted Shield, Obsidian Amulet, Level 4 Wizard Death, Heavy Armour, Barded Nightmare

HEROES
Vampire: Sword of Swift Slaying, Red Fury, Potion of Strength, Shield, Heavy Armour, Barded Nightmare, Level 1 LoV
Vampire: Red Fury, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Shield, Heavy Armour, DS
Vampire: Red Fury, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Shield, Heavy Armour
Vampire: Red Fury, Sword of Strife, Level 2 Wizard Shadow, Shield, Heavy Armour

CORE
81 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears, Banner of Eternal Flame
80 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears
80 Skeleton Warriors: FC, Spears

SPECIAL
40 Grave Guard: FC, Great Weapons, Banner of the Barrows
40 Grave Guard: FC, War Banner
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
Spirit Host
20 Black Knights: FC, Lances, Barding, Banner of Swiftness
Total Army Points: 5000pts

 

[hairyjeff]

Thanks kind sir, your list is totally different to what I've used in the past, so I'll try it next time out. I think you can say challenge successful.

 

[Tagakoner]

Thank you kind sir!

The metal list looks very interesting. Will definitely try and give it a
play sometime. Looks like a list that might also be quite fun against brets.

 

[The Sun King]

@Hairy Jeff: Awesome, glad to spark some ideas
@Tagakoner: Cool! I play Brets myself so I might have had them in mind subconsciously when I wrote the list Please let me know how it fares will'ya?

 

[bigbadbat]

Alright Sunny,
Bit of a strange one here...
2400 pts - You must have at least one Corpse Cart and the hero slots are filled as such:

lvl 1 Vamp
GW
RF
Seed of Rebirth
HA
Dragonhelm

lvl 1 Vamp
Sword of Striking
RF
HA
Enchanted Shield
Dispel

Vamp
GW
RF
Armor of SS

Heroes come to 599 pts
You can give them any lore you wish.
Let's see how closely you fill the gaps as I do. Maybe you'll be totally different
Very curious to see what you come up with!

 

[hairyjeff]

Sunny, I'm not writing a bat rep, but just finished an all-nighter with your 5000 list. Delighted to say, it rocks! I didn't win, but that was more due to inexperience with this list than anything else. Had trouble with Grimgor and his 50 strong Black Orc crew, but I'll settle for a draw first time out. Another session next week, and I've committed to a 12000 pointer at the end of march- I might ask your thoughts for that,too! More thanks than I can express.

 

[The Sun King]

Awesome! Well I'm very happy that I could be of service. A word of advice: When you go up in points you really want to be being 2 ME's and 3 TG's THEN I can make some killers lists for you And Ghouls... lots of Ghouls.

 

[hairyjeff]

I'm off to sleep now, but I'll post everything I've got for you to think about when I get an hour or so. Again, thanks.

 

[Swaiper]

12000 pts :O thats over 150 Crypt Horrors legally!

 

[Xenashi]

Hey Sunny.

How about a 2400 points list that is tailored to kill Skaven?

The rat prefers dual warp lightning cannons, along with a grey seer on a screaming bell.