Legion of Nagash Unit idea ?

[Capt Rubber Ducky]

I don't, it sounds too vampirish.

Yeah your right. It sounded quite sinister when i first read it, which is why i liked it.

 

[Sweeney Todd]

I suggest:

1)Greater/Senior Necrophyte
2)Necrophyte Prime
3)Necrophyte Undergraduate

The emphasis here being that they are disciples and students, and not really full fledged mages.

 

[Bishop]

I like Necrophyte Prime... though anything with Necrophyte in the name is fine by me (otherwise you have to re-word the chart to count the champion as well.. somehow).

hmm...

Necrophyte Magus?

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I like Necrophyte Prime. I think we should go with that.

Now we just need some fluff and then its voting time. Where's Marcus when you need him........

 

[beeblicon]

Love it....

A quick idea for fluff on thrall magic?

Although not having mastered the black arts yet, necrophytes are still able to channel a moderate amount of dark magic. Unable to create or control thier own undead...yet, they help channel thier masters power through his unliving minions. In battle neophytes embolster and empower the link between the undead and thier master, working together to channel his dark reach into the outer edges of a battlefield. It is in this way that necrophytes first learn to control the undead.

 

[Evanm7]

Although not having mastered the black arts yet, Necrophytes are still able to channel a moderate amount of dark magic. Unable to create or control their own undead...yet, they help channel their masters power through his unliving minions. In battle Necrophytes bolster and empower the link between the undead and their master, working together to channel his dark reach into the outer edges of a battlefield. It is in this way that Necrophytes first learn to control the undead.

 

[Campbellstein]

the first thing i thought when i read necrophyte prime was transformers, i think its too close to that octupus nine bloke, or whatever his name is.

its also not a million miles away from space marine neophytes.

my last point is that necro and phyte are both greek based pre/suffixes respectively and it essentialy means death-plant, which would possibly be more at home in a wood elf army. maybe a fey-triffid

 

[beeblicon]

the first thing i thought when i read necrophyte prime was transformers, i think its too close to that octupus nine bloke, or whatever his name is.

its also not a million miles away from space marine neophytes.

my last point is that necro and phyte are both greek based pre/suffixes respectively and it essentialy means death-plant, which would possibly be more at home in a wood elf army. maybe a fey-triffid

Neophyte also means a begginer or novice

Necrophyte, not being a real word, could easilly be necromancer novices

Etymology
From Middle English, from Late Latin neophytus, from Greek neophytos (newly planted), from phyein (to plant).

Your using literal translation, which is just a silly thing to do. if neophyte is acceptable for a begginer or novice (even considering it uses the phyte you described) then necrophyte is equally acceptable (try using babelfish to translate a page, it'll make all kinds of nonsense, translation takes some interpretation)

It is in no way an unreasonable word

Edit - also #
Necrophyte
A fungus (or other organism) colonising already dead tissues.


Edit - Quick edit, You could easilly translate it as Black Growth (using neophyte, new growth) as an example, and it could be a "proper" translation

i kinda like black growth for them personally

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

I personally think the names are fine - unless you have better suggestions Campbellstein ?

 

[beeblicon]

Necrolite?
Necro Thrall
Thrallmancer
Necro Touched
Dark minion
Necrentice

You could even do something vanilla - Apprentice necromancers

just some ideas, my vote is on keeping it as it is tho

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Necrolite?

On a diet? Our Necrophytes now come in a lite version - introducing new Necrolite. Half the calories but the same great taste.....

Necro Touched

Ok, can you show me on the doll where the naughty man touched you?

 

[Capt Rubber Ducky]

Necrolite?

On a diet? Our Necrophytes now come in a lite version - introducing new Necrolite. Half the calories but the same great taste.....

Necro Touched

Ok, can you show me on the doll where the naughty man touched you?

lol :lol:

I think Necrophytes is perfectly fine, i don't see any problem with it.

 

[beeblicon]

Necrolite?

On a diet? Our Necrophytes now come in a lite version - introducing new Necrolite. Half the calories but the same great taste.....

Necro Touched

Ok, can you show me on the doll where the naughty man touched you?

ROFLMBO

 

[Dreadgrass]

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWL!!!

How about "Teachers Pet" for the champ?

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Ok, final version that will be put forward for voting tomorrow unless anyone has any objections:

Necrophytes

20 points per model (yes, even the Champion)

Necrophyte.................M 4 / WS 2 / BS 0 / S 3 / T 3 / W 1 / I 2 / A 1 / Ld 7
Necrophyte Prime.........M 4 / WS 3 / BS 0 / S 3 / T 3 / W 1 / I 2 / A 1 / Ld 8

Unit size: 1 Necrophyte Champion plus 4-9 Necrophytes

Unit restrictions: 0-1 unit per 2,000 points

Weapons: Hand Weapon

Armour: None

Special rules:
Skirmisher
Nagashi
Thrall magic
Shrouded

Thrall Magic
Although not having mastered the black arts yet, necrophytes are still able to channel a moderate amount of dark magic. Unable to create or control thier own undead...yet, they help channel thier masters power through his unliving minions. In battle neophytes embolster and empower the link between the undead and thier master, working together to channel his dark reach into the outer edges of a battlefield. It is in this way that necrophytes first learn to control the undead.
Roll on the following table at the start of every Legion turn:
1-5 Necrophytes still alive: 1D6+1
6-10 Necrophytes still alive: 2D6+2

The total is the range from the Necrophyte Champion in which any Undeads unit may march move for that turn only. Only units that are in this range at the start of the Legion turn may march as per the BRB.

In addition any Undead unit that is within this range and suffer from crumbling at any point until the start of the next Legion phase (check distance at the time when the crumbling would occur), they suffer one less wound than normal.

The benefits described in Thrall Magic are not usable while the Necrophytes are fleeing.

Shrouded
The Necrophytes of Nagash are not warriors, and only take to the battlefield to further their training in necromantic lore. As such they shroud themselves in the darkest of shadows and avoid the enemy at all cost
The Necrophytes may not willingly charge the enemy. Any enemy attempting to shoot or cast at the Necrophytes suffer -1 to hit or -1 casting roll. This is in addition to the normal -1 to hit for being skirmishers.

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Edit - Just thought - what happens if the champ gets killed?

 

[Capt Rubber Ducky]

Edit - Just thought - what happens if the champ gets killed?

If the stat lines where the same another one could just step up to take his place.

Or rather then a champion you choose a model to be the 'focus point' at the start of everyturn.

The total is the range from the Necrophyte Champion in which any Undeads unit may march move for that turn only. *only removed* Units that are in this range at the start of the Legion turn may march as per the BRB.

It could have lead to some irritating picky people argueing with the rules.

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

Well we have an issue as the Prime does not have the same stat line, and the unit has to have a champion for their Thrall Magic power.

I would suggest that the Prime's statline matches the normal Necrophytes?

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

Eeeeeek! Why did my computer not inform me there were new posts here!
Damn.
Anyway, lets have a look-see... Necrophytes huh?

I like them.

But seen as I have finally found this thread, I shall contribute - if you give the Necrophyte the same stat line as the Prime, whats to stop unscrupulous players abusing this and saying - 'well they all have the same stats, so il just remove a basic necrophyte'. thus making the Prime virtually unkillable. there needs to be something to make him stand out.

 

[Dreadgrass]

Hmm... what if we didn't include the Prime, but instead you have to "choose 1 model each turn to act as the focus"?

 

[Capt Rubber Ducky]

Hmm... what if we didn't include the Prime, but instead you have to "choose 1 model each turn to act as the focus"?

I think that would work the best, as we don't have to mess around with champions with the same stats and people becoming champions in the middle of games.

 

[Bishop]

I'm okay with this too...

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

Well, that was simple...

 

[Disciple of Nagash]

So how is this version:

Necrophytes

Necrophyte.................M 4 / WS 2 / BS 0 / S 3 / T 3 / W 1 / I 2 / A 1 / Ld 7


Unit size: 5-10 Necrophytes

Unit restrictions: 0-1 unit per 2,000 points

Weapons: Hand Weapon

Armour: None

Special rules:
Skirmisher
Nagashi
Thrall magic
Shrouded


Thrall Magic
Although not having mastered the black arts yet, necrophytes are still able to channel a moderate amount of dark magic. Unable to create or control thier own undead...yet, they help channel thier masters power through his unliving minions. In battle neophytes embolster and empower the link between the undead and thier master, working together to channel his dark reach into the outer edges of a battlefield. It is in this way that necrophytes first learn to control the undead.

Before using this power you must select one model to be the "Locus" for that turn. The Locus can change from turn to turn.
Roll on the following table at the start of every Legion turn:
1-5 Necrophytes still alive: 1D6+1
6-10 Necrophytes still alive: 2D6+2

The total is the range from the Locus in which any Undeads unit may march move for that turn only. Only units that are in this range at the start of the Legion turn may march as per the BRB.

In addition any Undead unit that is within this range and suffer from crumbling at any point until the start of the next Legion phase (check distance at the time when the crumbling would occur), they suffer one less wound than normal.

The benefits described in Thrall Magic are not usable while the Necrophytes are fleeing.

Shrouded
The Necrophytes of Nagash are not warriors, and only take to the battlefield to further their training in necromantic lore. As such they shroud themselves in the darkest of shadows and avoid the enemy at all cost
The Necrophytes may not willingly charge the enemy. Any enemy attempting to shoot or cast at the Necrophytes suffer -1 to hit or -1 casting roll. This is in addition to the normal -1 to hit for being skirmishers.

 

[Marcus Von Drac]

Yeah, that looks fine to me.

 

[Capt Rubber Ducky]

Yeap, that looks good.