Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy Releases- Including Nagash & new VC stuff.
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Mioum
Crypt Horror
I don't speak Spanish at all, but I can decipher some of it! Sorry if some if it is wrong
Lore attribute - when castin an incatation (new type of spells for this lore), each counter used gives you +10pts for the total amount you can raise.
Signature spell - 9+ to cast; raise 100pts of infantry (Nagash triple that). Boosted on 16+ for 150pts.
Spell 1 - 6+ to cast; Heal 1d3+1 wounds to the target.
Spell 2 - 7+ to cast; Hard to read, but it's something that give a single attacks that if it hit, is multi-wound D6 with no save. If this kill a character, you gain D6counter for the lore attribute.
Spell 3 - 8+ to cast; 2D6 +2 minus the target Ld to cause wounds with no armour. If you do at least one wound, you get D3 counter for the lore attribute.
Spell 4 - 10+ to cast; Summon a unit of Warbeast or Swarm of up to 75pts. Boosted at 16 +, raise 150pts.
Spell 5 - 10+ to cast; Summon a Character of up to 65pts. Boosted on 24+, can then summon a Monster, Chariot (singular) or War Machine of up to 200pts.
Spell 6 - 16+ to cast; Summon Cavalry, Monstrous Cavalry or Chariots (plural) of up to 150pts.
Vampire Count
Ghoul
Nagash creating 300 points of infantry for 9+ is obscene. A hundred zombies for 9+ to cast. Oh wait, he can then summon a Varghulf for 10+. He could easily cast both of those spells using only the 4 dice he's stored from the enemy's previous magic phase. How the hell is anyone going to stand a chance against him.
Count Matthewzilla
Vargheist
Arkhan- level 4 wizard. Knows Lore of Death and Undeath. Any combo of lores, must distinguish before generating.
Neferata- level 3 wizard. Knows Lore of Vampires, Death, Undeath, and Shadows. Any combo of lores, must distinguish before generating.
Mannfred- level 4 wizard, Lore of Undeath, Death, Vampires. Any combo of lores, must distinguish before generating. It looks like Mannfred is no longer a Loremaster of Vampires and Death. Which is lame, but he still has Master of Black Arts, Dark Acolyte, EDIT and he can save up to three power dice to generate additional attacks until the next friendly magic phase.
Neferata- level 3 wizard. Knows Lore of Vampires, Death, Undeath, and Shadows. Any combo of lores, must distinguish before generating.
Mannfred- level 4 wizard, Lore of Undeath, Death, Vampires. Any combo of lores, must distinguish before generating. It looks like Mannfred is no longer a Loremaster of Vampires and Death. Which is lame, but he still has Master of Black Arts, Dark Acolyte, EDIT and he can save up to three power dice to generate additional attacks until the next friendly magic phase.
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Vampire Count
Ghoul
Heh, how lame does Dark Acolyte look now? +d3 on restoring a few wounds of infantry back... vs raising a unit of 60 skeletons / 10 black knights etc
Mioum
Crypt Horror
Deciphered rules (not translated, as I know nothing about Spanish 
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Morghast Harbinger; Unit size 2+, two hand weapons, heavy armour. Hover and killing blow. Friendly undead units within 12 inches crumble by one less.
Morghast Archai; Unit size 2+, Halberd, Full plate (4+ armor). Hover and Killing Blow. Same crumble thing as the Harbinger.
Arkhan the Black; Level 4 wizard, access to Lore of Death and Lore of Undeath and can mix them. If he inflict at least a wound during CC, roll a dice. On 6+ he regain a wound. Crumble one less than normal (can be combined with other modifier). Also he can march. Arkhan double the number of points raise with the Lore of Undeath.
Magic item - Sword; Eachj wound cause heal him by one, maximum of 4 regained wound per phase.
Staff; Can store magic dice. Doesn't seems to talk about a limit.
Neferata; Level 3 wizard, access to Death, Shadow, Vampire, Undeath, and can mix and match. Can regain a wound on 6+ like Arkhan. If she kill a model in challenge, you get a free Vampire that you place within 12 inces. Enemy are at -1 to hit her, except for Khalida.
Magic item - Sword; If she wound in challenge, the enemy loos 1S, 1T and 1A permanatly. But can only be affected once.
Staff; When Neferata cast a magic missile, a direct damage or an hex, the target suffer an additional D3 S5 hit.
Mannfred; Level 4 wizard, access to Death, Vampire and Undeath and can mix and match. Can use up to 3 magic dice to get +1 attack per dice (can go beyond the maximum of 10). Also have the ability to heal a wound on a 6+.
Have the MAter of the Black Arts power. Also he double the range of the Lore of Undeath.
Magic item - Sword; Each unsaved wound gives him a magic dice. Maximum of 5 dice can be gained with it per phase.
Armor; Heavy Armor with +2 wounds (already in profile).
)Morghast Harbinger; Unit size 2+, two hand weapons, heavy armour. Hover and killing blow. Friendly undead units within 12 inches crumble by one less.
Morghast Archai; Unit size 2+, Halberd, Full plate (4+ armor). Hover and Killing Blow. Same crumble thing as the Harbinger.
Arkhan the Black; Level 4 wizard, access to Lore of Death and Lore of Undeath and can mix them. If he inflict at least a wound during CC, roll a dice. On 6+ he regain a wound. Crumble one less than normal (can be combined with other modifier). Also he can march. Arkhan double the number of points raise with the Lore of Undeath.
Magic item - Sword; Eachj wound cause heal him by one, maximum of 4 regained wound per phase.
Staff; Can store magic dice. Doesn't seems to talk about a limit.
Neferata; Level 3 wizard, access to Death, Shadow, Vampire, Undeath, and can mix and match. Can regain a wound on 6+ like Arkhan. If she kill a model in challenge, you get a free Vampire that you place within 12 inces. Enemy are at -1 to hit her, except for Khalida.
Magic item - Sword; If she wound in challenge, the enemy loos 1S, 1T and 1A permanatly. But can only be affected once.
Staff; When Neferata cast a magic missile, a direct damage or an hex, the target suffer an additional D3 S5 hit.
Mannfred; Level 4 wizard, access to Death, Vampire and Undeath and can mix and match. Can use up to 3 magic dice to get +1 attack per dice (can go beyond the maximum of 10). Also have the ability to heal a wound on a 6+.
Have the MAter of the Black Arts power. Also he double the range of the Lore of Undeath.
Magic item - Sword; Each unsaved wound gives him a magic dice. Maximum of 5 dice can be gained with it per phase.
Armor; Heavy Armor with +2 wounds (already in profile).
I guess that they had to take away Loremaster of Death and Vampires because that would mean that he knows more spells than Nagash...
Vampire Count
Ghoul
With Manfred's ability to lose Powerdice to gain attacks - this appears to work in reverse (so if he sacrficies 3 attacks, he gains 3PD?) Or am I just being too optimistic.
Of special note, I feel, are two aspects of the Mortarchs: the abysmal armour saves all-round, and the awful combat ability. Yes, they have tons of wounds - T6 8 wounds is immense. But a Terrorgheist only has 2 wounds less than that, and it's actually more resilient due to having 6+ regen... I'm not sure, in a way I kind of like how the Undead lean more towards 'lots of wounds and good at healing, but terrible armour' as opposed to 'quasi-warriors of chaos', but from a gut feeling perspective... why are Nagash's most important generals prancing around with a 6+ armour save? A bog-standard Empire Warrior Priest on a barded steed with shield has a 2+. Tht's way better than Manfred's 'awesome' 4+ armour save. Yes, of course Undead can heal a lot, but it just feels frustrating.
Next, they are all capped at S5. Not bad, but hardly terrifying. With the amazing Undead summoning spells, it seems you'd basically want to keep them out of combat with anything except the weakest of foes, instead focusing on raising unholy amounts of troops and monsters. But then their admittedly limited combat ability (6+ attacks + thunderstomp isn't TERRIBLE) would go to waste...!
Of special note, I feel, are two aspects of the Mortarchs: the abysmal armour saves all-round, and the awful combat ability. Yes, they have tons of wounds - T6 8 wounds is immense. But a Terrorgheist only has 2 wounds less than that, and it's actually more resilient due to having 6+ regen... I'm not sure, in a way I kind of like how the Undead lean more towards 'lots of wounds and good at healing, but terrible armour' as opposed to 'quasi-warriors of chaos', but from a gut feeling perspective... why are Nagash's most important generals prancing around with a 6+ armour save? A bog-standard Empire Warrior Priest on a barded steed with shield has a 2+. Tht's way better than Manfred's 'awesome' 4+ armour save. Yes, of course Undead can heal a lot, but it just feels frustrating.
Next, they are all capped at S5. Not bad, but hardly terrifying. With the amazing Undead summoning spells, it seems you'd basically want to keep them out of combat with anything except the weakest of foes, instead focusing on raising unholy amounts of troops and monsters. But then their admittedly limited combat ability (6+ attacks + thunderstomp isn't TERRIBLE) would go to waste...!
Was preparing for the shop visit tomorrow morning to make per-orders.
Got a text from a friend saying the pre-sale has begun.
Started the PC and logged onto the GW website.
Learnt that the Warhammer Battle Magic: Lore of Undeath (English) is no longer available...
Got a text from a friend saying the pre-sale has begun.
Started the PC and logged onto the GW website.
Learnt that the Warhammer Battle Magic: Lore of Undeath (English) is no longer available...
As a matter of fact, they are.. Not sure for how much longer but they are... I also found "my" Battle Magic available for purchase on e-bay... for a sweet price of £29.99... What a f**ing joke... I would say nothing if I had missed the pre-ordering by a few days but it's not even Saturday yet! The sale has been on for a few minutes and the dollar-thirsty vultures got the whole stock..... I feel like crying.....
I feel you. Placed my order, didnt allow paypal on phone so i started pc dud it over...no cards...
Vampire Count
Ghoul
Imagine a fight between a 'standard' Nurgle Daemon Prince (less than 400 points) and one of the Mortarchs.
Daemon Prince: Charges, 3+ to hit, 3+ to wound (sword of might)... 3 wounds average, breath weapon causes another one.
Mortarch: 6 / 9 / 12 attacks depending on who it is etc, 3-4 hits, 1-2 wounds, Daemon goes 'LOL NOPE' and saves with its 1+ 5++
Daemon scores 4+1 (charge)
Mortarch scores 0
Mortarch dies (may just survive on the brink of death if there's any crumble resistance / it has more wounds ala Manfred).
Next turn Mortarch definitely dies anyway. Of course, Nagash can do unspeakable things to that Daemon Prince (for 3x the cost though)
And I suppose the Mortarchs can basically summon entire armies, so there's that. Oh wait the Daemon Prince can also use the Lore of Undeath, just like every mage now. Hmmm.
Daemon Prince: Charges, 3+ to hit, 3+ to wound (sword of might)... 3 wounds average, breath weapon causes another one.
Mortarch: 6 / 9 / 12 attacks depending on who it is etc, 3-4 hits, 1-2 wounds, Daemon goes 'LOL NOPE' and saves with its 1+ 5++
Daemon scores 4+1 (charge)
Mortarch scores 0
Mortarch dies (may just survive on the brink of death if there's any crumble resistance / it has more wounds ala Manfred).
Next turn Mortarch definitely dies anyway. Of course, Nagash can do unspeakable things to that Daemon Prince (for 3x the cost though)
And I suppose the Mortarchs can basically summon entire armies, so there's that. Oh wait the Daemon Prince can also use the Lore of Undeath, just like every mage now. Hmmm.
Sir Geheimnisnacht
Ghoul
@Sir Geheimnisnacht That's the word so far. But 9th is a big looming Who Knows.
Also, good to see you back, man!
Also, good to see you back, man!
Vampire Count
Ghoul
No one has said yet - it also applies to the other models like the Morghasts - can VC now take them in a normal game? I am guessing the answer is 'no' to both. It wouldn't be fair to be able to raise so much stuff in a normal game and the enemy be unable to do it. Imagine turning up to a 2600 point game with Manfred and starting to summon literally huge hordes of troops every turn, giving your opponent the opportunity to do the same but then saying 'oh, you didn't also bring 200 zombies, 100 ghouls, 5 varghulfs and 20 black knights in addition to your normal army? Bad luck for you then I guess!'. I just can't see it working out.
P.S. I like your avatar - I've recently started listening to Ghost.
Sir Geheimnisnacht
Ghoul
Thanks, gentlemen. I suppose I'll at least have to pick up the cards just to be safe.
@Adam_Barrow -- Good to see you too. It seems as soon as Autumn begins to approach, I can't resist the lure of the undead. Maybe this time around, I'll get more done. Hoping to finally start a plog soon.
@Vampire Count -- Ghost is really good painting tunes too!
@Adam_Barrow -- Good to see you too. It seems as soon as Autumn begins to approach, I can't resist the lure of the undead. Maybe this time around, I'll get more done. Hoping to finally start a plog soon.
@Vampire Count -- Ghost is really good painting tunes too!
Woot woot!
Well, I'll check the prices at least. hell, depending on things i may say fuck it ot waiting on thewarstore
