Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy Releases- Including Nagash & new VC stuff.
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crimsonsun
Skeleton
- Tyrion, knowing this, choked by the bitterness and prisoner and the Curse of Aenarion went with his brother Teclis who had visions of what happened and what was going to happen. They went with a large army north to the Blighted Isle. There a vast force of his cousins were found Naggaroth with wounded front Malekith. The sons of Aenarion not fight this time. There was a greater enemy, as in the days of his father, wearing his race to annihilation. Emissaries Eternal Oak, Forest Elves, also arrived, shaken by visions of destruction and call ... Khaine. - When he finished the ritual, an earthquake and a series of roars were heard throughout the celestial orb. They were demons, shuddering, his worst and most terrible enemy, had awakened him, and his former allies, the dragons flying by thousands, led by the Lord of Caledor ...
Mother! Turbulent times ahead for the Elves in the Old World, with the return, it seems, Doer of Widows and Dragons. What you think?
Mother! Turbulent times ahead for the Elves in the Old World, with the return, it seems, Doer of Widows and Dragons. What you think?
so hold on, malekith is putting overlordship of ulthuan second to saving the world? and here i thought he did not have a concience
Sir Geheimnisnacht
Ghoul
@Sir Geheimnisnacht Yes, thats what I meant 
Thanks to all those that answered me. I'm not sure how I could be expecting more undead legion stuff after all that actually..
Thanks to all those that answered me. I'm not sure how I could be expecting more undead legion stuff after all that actually..
Count Raffael
Skeleton
I plan on actually converting Nagash with some extra zombie dragons wings I have and a couple of others bits to him 
honestly now that I think about it, it shouldn't be too hard to cut the staff at the hand, and join the two halves with wire and resculpt.
Menkeroth
A Knight of Blood
Score rules for krell. No longer has to challenge, HKB in combat with nagash. gained an attack and a Ld point. Regains a wound if enemy fails, fear, terror or break test within 12" (new mortarch rule) price up by 45 points. armour and axe is the same.!
Honestly, he doesn't seem lord-worthy to me. I was expecting more out of him at that points cost. I mean, anybody that Nagash would need a bodyguard against would just wreck Krell with his no ward save, only 4+ armor, and ASL weapon. And if you're just chump blocking, then you don't need a 250 point lord for that. Maybe I'm wrong, and I just need someone to show me the point of him. I could maybe see Nagash summoning him with magic as per the WD battle report, but not fielding him normally. Honestly, considering that the same spell could summon a Terrorgheist, I'm not even sure I'd do that ever.
I tried to read his flavor text to get a hint of what happened to Kemmler, but couldn't do it. It's almost legible, but not quite, and trying to read it gave me a headache.
I tried to read his flavor text to get a hint of what happened to Kemmler, but couldn't do it. It's almost legible, but not quite, and trying to read it gave me a headache.
I was almost thinking that those pictures are for ants. I did like the artwork of Nagash though.
Krell sucks in our current book too. But at least this version is better than the last.. His HKB still only works in challenges which makes it useless against monsters.. Against ridden monsters he still has ASL and needs to survive a bucketload of attacks with no saves..
It just says the same as our 8th book and that krell hears nagashs voice as clear as any save arkhan the black, and that he does what nagash wants whether Kemmler realizes it or not.. Undeath has madw him strong he is a commander of nagash, bla bla bla.
Interesting. but yea, he has no significant defense in challenges, which makes his whole point and thus him moot.
Exactly the +4 armour save alone is crap when it is his point that he should be able to go toe to toe with other lords.. It should be non reduceble or grant a wardsave too..
Krell is only useful if there is a Corpse Cart nearby AND a bat swarm in the same combat or a somebody right next to him with a nightshroud. I always felt that his axe should not confer ASL.
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I'd almost like him if his armor were invulnerable, or if it were a 2+ save, or if there was check to break magic weapons based on them wounding him before attempting the save, and not after based on him making it. As it is, there aren't many magic weapons worth breaking that won't ignore his 4+ save anyway. In our book I like him better, because at least there he's only a hero and not a lord (not that that matters within the confines of the Nagash campaign rules). He also makes more sense as a bodyguard for Kemmler, as there are a number of characters that Krell could beat on that could legitimately threaten Kemmler. Not so Nagash, especially when Nagash, unlike Kemmler, won't be part of the same unit.
So his bodyguard rule is less useful than before, and I don't see the despair rule and plus one attack making up that difference, let alone the extra cost or shift to lord.
It's a shame, really. Krell's about the only finecast model that I have and like (there are a couple bubbles, sure, but they blend into the worn and beaten texture of his armor).
And I'm still bitter that the Undead Legions list cannot field Kemmler. Even if he wasn't made a mortarch (and he should have been, imo), they could have at least made the VC version available like with the one Tomb Kings character.
And honestly, if they're still following the 'he thinks he works for the chaos gods' bit after Nagash's return? With the fluff that every necromancer in the world can feel Nagash's presence battering at their minds? The 'Kemmler is deluded' fluff worked before, but it doesn't work any longer, and should have been changed to give him a place in this campaign. It is frustrating that the mortarchs include three vampires (none of them necrarchs, the only bloodline to stay loyal to nagash through the ages, but that's a separate gripe), a lich priest, and a wight, but no necromancers at all.
I can only hope their numbers will be expanded in future end times campaign books (much as the Nagash book includes rules for Krom and whatsisname, baby sigmar, you know the one)
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To keep this post from being purely negative, because on balance I'm still very excited about the campaign overall, apparently in the 'Nagash Returns' novel Mannfred is re-retconned to have him lying to Arkhan, pretending to help restore Nagash while secretly planning to betray Arkhan, leave Nagash unsummoned, and make off with the great necromancer's artefacts, which IMO is a decent authorial save in reconciling Mannfred's previous motivations and behaviors with his actions since the start of 8th edition.
So his bodyguard rule is less useful than before, and I don't see the despair rule and plus one attack making up that difference, let alone the extra cost or shift to lord.
It's a shame, really. Krell's about the only finecast model that I have and like (there are a couple bubbles, sure, but they blend into the worn and beaten texture of his armor).
And I'm still bitter that the Undead Legions list cannot field Kemmler. Even if he wasn't made a mortarch (and he should have been, imo), they could have at least made the VC version available like with the one Tomb Kings character.
And honestly, if they're still following the 'he thinks he works for the chaos gods' bit after Nagash's return? With the fluff that every necromancer in the world can feel Nagash's presence battering at their minds? The 'Kemmler is deluded' fluff worked before, but it doesn't work any longer, and should have been changed to give him a place in this campaign. It is frustrating that the mortarchs include three vampires (none of them necrarchs, the only bloodline to stay loyal to nagash through the ages, but that's a separate gripe), a lich priest, and a wight, but no necromancers at all.
I can only hope their numbers will be expanded in future end times campaign books (much as the Nagash book includes rules for Krom and whatsisname, baby sigmar, you know the one)
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To keep this post from being purely negative, because on balance I'm still very excited about the campaign overall, apparently in the 'Nagash Returns' novel Mannfred is re-retconned to have him lying to Arkhan, pretending to help restore Nagash while secretly planning to betray Arkhan, leave Nagash unsummoned, and make off with the great necromancer's artefacts, which IMO is a decent authorial save in reconciling Mannfred's previous motivations and behaviors with his actions since the start of 8th edition.
Just a point. Arkhan is not a lich priest. never is it mentioned he was part of the mortuary cult. he is simply a lich.
We should probably have a seperate thread for background discussion.
Baby sigmar is valten.
technically there are nine, which i hope includes abbhorash as the mortarch of war/conquest.
We should probably have a seperate thread for background discussion.
Baby sigmar is valten.
technically there are nine, which i hope includes abbhorash as the mortarch of war/conquest.
I keep seeing mention of nine Dark Lords, but this has never been confirmed officially as far as I can find.
It was mentioned that there were intended to be five (at least originally), which we have: Vlad, Mannfred, Neferata, Arkhan and Krell. This idea of nine seems to stem from them as Nazgûl to Nagash's Sauron.
It was mentioned that there were intended to be five (at least originally), which we have: Vlad, Mannfred, Neferata, Arkhan and Krell. This idea of nine seems to stem from them as Nazgûl to Nagash's Sauron.
It's in the white dwarf. i don't have it atm, but i'll look the page up soonish.