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@logan054 , my rant about AoS hate? its more being annoyed with your and other peoples constant bashing. Its the constant belitteling, foulmouthing and making ridiculous claims of AoS not being Warhammer Fantasy that is just extremely boring and tiresome. Its one thing to disagree/dislike with...

@logan054 AoS is pretending to be Warhammer? Seriously, it is time for the people that dislike AoS to stop saying these things. You not agreeing with the current newest release from GW within the Fantasy world of Warhammer really has nothing to do with how real or not it is. AoS isnt pretending...

Well, I think most Tournament players care more about balance than fluff. So in the light of what youre saying, you could use 9th Age as a fluffless competitive warhammer game and AoS/8th ed/End times as the fluffy games to play. We are granted choices here, which is even more fun.

I have a few friends that played 9th age and they were really positive, they play O&G vs Empire or Lizards. I dont know yet, havent read all the rules thouroughly. They say its a mix of Swedish comp + ETC woven into the fabric of 8th ed with some more tweaking.

I dont think Tournament rules are even intended to care about fluff. It aims to balance the existing units and placing them accordingly. The morghasts and mortarchs are an issue only because they belong to end times fluff.

sigh... im done here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdUboMHSwUrb4NHIqP4OihW7OL03V91gWrF79Ha0_2I/pub#h.fgyxcxtc2nq2 This is the said 9th age alpha document. http://www.openhammer.org/OPENHAMMER%20FANTASY%20-%20Rulebook.pdf This is another valid option

Najo, have you taken a look at the thread i posted with 2 links to 8th ed updates/9th ed streamline? both are made by different fans in warhammer community. So before you start on a grand WiP, it might be good to read what is already available?

Yes, and it is Warhammer as GW decided it to be now. Again, your interpretation or wishes are irrelevant. This is now Warhammer Fantasy, like it or not. It is Warhammer and has the same lore, matter of fact, its the continuation of the timeline after the End Times, which preluded the destruction...

Once again you fail to properly read. I never advocated narrowing down to AoS. I advocate to keep this Warhammer mainly. Which includes AoS, 8th ed and all the others + everything that has to do with the hobby in general. If theres a subthread somewhere on the forum for members of this forum...

@Dragonet people are using multiple forums already, whats your point? Most likely people that have switched armies or games have already let this forum out of their habitual visits What youre saying is that there should be 1 forum for all tabletop wargaming where the entire tabletop community...

no @Pirate Robot Ninja of Death but AoS is still warhammer, which this forum happens to be based upon. Furthermore the Death legions are vampires for a large part, even more than just the Von Carstein. If you had read properly, a few lines later i state that anybody with any interest in...

Im sorry to bust all of yours bubble. But in the end it boils down to this: A dicegame is inherently flawed. Rolling dice as the sole mean to actually decide the battle is never gonna be balanced. Its a luckgame. Best example in this is Risk. There isnt a simpler and more straightforward...

@Blutsauger read again m8 :D

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdUboMHSwUrb4NHIqP4OihW7OL03V91gWrF79Ha0_2I/pub#h.fgyxcxtc2nq2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.openhammer.org/OPENHAMMER%20FANTASY%20-%20Rulebook.pdf Both are equally detailed and well-built...

Tbh, i dont really see the big problem. Theres 2 kinds actually: those that play warhammer and those that dont. The warhammerplayers that play AoS Undead will have their own spot here on the forum and be part of the vampire community, as will the players that play 8th ed VC/UL, as will the ones...

just to be clear @Ghouly, fantasy sales were only 15% of total revenue. GW was selling and earning more on paint and tools than selling fantasy. From this you can conclude that fantasy was actually costing money instead of earning. I played AoS recently and i was charmed by the freedom of...

@najo and @LordTobiothan .... ive followed your 'argument' here and i can only say that as usual LordTobiothan is making things personal. Ive read posts from both of you extensively on this forum about varying topics and in all fairness it has struck me that tobiothan often is negative with a...

@najo , you might be right but if the Deathstar/Cheese running straight at you (well deployed and moved) eats your non-deathstar/cheese away, whats the point of trying to move tactically. As you said, movement now has more liberty and units have far more ease at charging, which in turn makes it...

well, you might be absolutely right, they most likely were written by drunks. Where previous cheeselists were still bound to very specific rules which kind of prevented ultracheese, the new wounds#ruleset totally frees any restriction. So you can whine about somebody creating "unbalanced...